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Posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 7:31:49
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by glydin 00 on August 21, 2009, at 6:34:35
> ~~~ I also would like to know the plans for the future, if there are indeed any.
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> I don't think babble will go away but for me, the babble I knew is already gone... I'm not cottoning to all the self-regulation. I believe it's brought more turmoil and discord making the place just like so many others. I liked it when the boards were monitored more closely.... I'm probably a minority. I see more jabbing and ducking, mostly jabbing, than ever before. Nothing much get nipped in the bud, so to speak. I feel interactions were better when accountibility to the boards was a two fold poster AND adm. responsibility....I agree with you.
It seems that the most troubled board is the Administration board. Perhaps it is drama that attracts so many people. I don't know.
My failed attempt to lobby for participation in several threads dedicated to discussing the moderation of the website did yield one commonly held belief of the few who did participate. It was that the length of blocks are too long and that the punishment does not fit the "crime". I found it interesting that some of the most vocal personages who are detractors of the moderation of the website did not choose to participate in the threads I started. Perhaps antagonism works better than deliberation. Perhaps no one likes me. I don't know. No biggie.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 12:53:16
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 7:31:49
Well I like you. I feel that something strange is going on and have for a long time. If you look at the people that are blocked the old not age wise posters account for a lot of the void. Also a lot have gone to facebook and other sites. I posted once before that I kind of smelled a rat and still do. Something is not right. Too many changes after the announcement that students or whatnot would be observing or whatever they do or did. People now come and go and don't stick around. Just my thoughts. Phillipa
Posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 13:42:27
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » SLS, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 12:53:16
> Well I like you. I feel that something strange is going on and have for a long time. If you look at the people that are blocked the old not age wise posters account for a lot of the void. Also a lot have gone to facebook and other sites. I posted once before that I kind of smelled a rat and still do. Something is not right. Too many changes after the announcement that students or whatnot would be observing or whatever they do or did. People now come and go and don't stick around. Just my thoughts. Phillipa
Yiah. We gained two great people on the Psychology board in one week, only to see them both disappear the following week. That's a trajedy.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 14:10:46
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 21, 2009, at 13:42:27
Scott so you see it also. I could name a lot of the new posters that are great but they are no longer posting and aren't in remission? I think I know who you mean on psychology. Phillipa
Posted by gobbledygook on August 21, 2009, at 14:11:33
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » SLS, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 12:53:16
> If you look at the people that are blocked the old not age wise posters account for a lot of the void......People now come and go and don't stick around. Just my thoughts. Phillipa
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I miss Twinleaf, Fayeroe, Verne, and many others...they've been gone for so long.They brought a lot of spirit and heart here...void and sadness...that's what I feel.
I hope all of you are doing well if you're reading this. I miss reading your posts.
Ava
Posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 14:17:14
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » Phillipa, posted by gobbledygook on August 21, 2009, at 14:11:33
Gooble the mystery person to me anyway other than blocked new ones Jade, Zana, Floatingbridge, Ihatedmeds, Garnet once in a while. Blocked one that stands out is Chairman MAOI. So many the list goes on and on. Phillipa ps now some of the new ones post now and then. Forgot desolationrower, Parnate 2008, Vincent, Mycoboy.
Posted by Sigismund on August 21, 2009, at 15:43:43
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » gobbledygook, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 14:17:14
Lrrrrp
Posted by Dinah on August 21, 2009, at 18:11:29
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » SLS, posted by Phillipa on August 21, 2009, at 12:53:16
I know of no rat. While I can't read Dr. Bob's mind, I know of no board changes other than what has already been made clear on Babble by Dr. Bob.
Nor did Dr. Bob ask deputies to leave, and there was no common cause for 10derHeart's situation and my own.
I assure you, had Dr. Bob in any way made me feel unwelcome, I would not be posting politely to him. My abandonment issues run deep. :)
Sometimes stuff happens, and sometimes it happens in unfortunate coincidence.
Posted by Dinah on August 21, 2009, at 18:29:28
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2009, at 18:11:29
Well, I take that back. I would of course be posting politely. But not in as friendly terms.
Posted by Partlycloudy on August 21, 2009, at 19:23:45
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Dinah on August 21, 2009, at 18:11:29
So it's another perfectly normal day on babble to have just a single deputy after 2 have left within 2 weeks of each other; and an administrator who fails to explain to the rest of the community what's going on.
I understand completely. Business as usual.
Posted by rskontos on August 21, 2009, at 20:26:39
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Partlycloudy on August 21, 2009, at 19:23:45
In my humble opinion, I feel that so many have left and it has saddened me to the point that I don't often post. I read, but most of the time I just lurk.
I feel like Åva, the babble I used to cherish has eroded to something I don't always recognize. Maybe Phillipa is right, the trouble really vamped up after that announcement of students, then the Twitter thing, and all the unseemly blocks that I feel aren't warranted.
I felt like the Babble I first experience in 2006 is nothing like the Babble of today. that is just my 2 cents.
I found I censor so much of what I want to say that I often just decide why bother?
I remember when I couldn't keep up with all the posts and threads, and now I come back every 10 -14 days and its easy to catch up. I miss all the traffic and posters. I long for those days but I am afraid it is the end of an era. so many friends gone now.
rsk
and I too find it disturbing that Dinah and 10derheart both resigned in such a short span.Does this mean that you're going to be around more Dr. Bob since I know Racer's abilities to be here is or might still be conditional. I hope your ok Racer.
Posted by 10derHeart on August 21, 2009, at 20:46:35
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » Partlycloudy, posted by rskontos on August 21, 2009, at 20:26:39
Posted by gobbledygook on August 21, 2009, at 23:32:04
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Sigismund on August 21, 2009, at 15:43:43
> Lrrrrp
And who can forget Timne...a brief but intriguing visitor.He came through like a comet blazing across the evening sky.
Definitely controversial, but dazzling and brilliant mind. I really enjoyed reading his posts. During the mid portion of his time here, his posts
were especially intellectually stimulating...Sophie Scholl, Sharia banking, Occam's razor, broken windows theory, freefall, and such...In the end he got a little "worked-up" and "hot under the collar", unfortunately, but he sure went out with a bang...
I hope he and "his friend" are doing well in their "nation".
And I hope all's well with you, Sig!
Ava
Posted by rskontos on August 22, 2009, at 1:00:00
In reply to Dinah has definitely not resigned (nm) » rskontos, posted by 10derHeart on August 21, 2009, at 20:46:35
Dinah or Racer. It was just my concern for both.
rsk
Posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 1:34:21
In reply to And who can forget Timne... » Sigismund, posted by gobbledygook on August 21, 2009, at 23:32:04
>And who can forget Timne...a brief but intriguing visitor.
>He came through like a comet blazing across the evening sky.
>Definitely controversial, but dazzling and brilliant mind. I really enjoyed reading his posts. During the mid portion of his time here, his posts
were especially intellectually stimulating...Sophie Scholl, Sharia banking, Occam's razor, broken windows theory, freefall, and such...>In the end he got a little "worked-up" and "hot under the collar", unfortunately, but he sure went out with a bang...
>I hope he and "his friend" are doing well in their "nation".
>And I hope all's well with you, Sig!
>Ava
Hello AvaHe was such fun. I hadn't laughed so much since zazenducke splashed around and left in a flap.
He must be the only babbler ever to succeed in undoing his registration. I don't imagine he'd be very impressed to hear that, but anyway....I'm dreading summer. My wife is trying to get me volunteer English teaching in Vietnam. I could be quite good at it if I don't freak out for one reason or another.
Nice to see you here
Sig
Posted by Dinah on August 22, 2009, at 8:39:10
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Partlycloudy on August 21, 2009, at 19:23:45
What is he to explain? He left it to the deputies involved to comment, I imagine because he felt that that was proper. He thanked 10der for her service. I guess he could explain that he's making himself more available during this time, in case it wasn't evident.
I know Babble is down to one deputy. I feel bad enough about that myself. If I could be a deputy right now, I would. But I can't. I hope that it's very temporary.
10der and I have both stated that there was no common cause for our stepping down.
I find that with Dr. Bob, asking very specific questions improves my chance for an answer. If you're concerned about Babble's moderation during this time, perhaps you could ask him specifically what his thoughts are, including any specific concerns you wish him to cover.
Posted by Partlycloudy on August 22, 2009, at 8:58:38
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » Partlycloudy, posted by Dinah on August 22, 2009, at 8:39:10
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> I find that with Dr. Bob, asking very specific questions improves my chance for an answer. If you're concerned about Babble's moderation during this time, perhaps you could ask him specifically what his thoughts are, including any specific concerns you wish him to cover.I think I have been specific enough in my stated concerns. I don't think it should be up to either you nor 10der to speak for Dr Bob when I have asked him what his plans are.
But thanks anyway. And I hope you're OK.
Posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Partlycloudy on August 22, 2009, at 8:58:38
> I think I have been specific enough in my stated concerns. I don't think it should be up to either you nor 10der to speak for Dr Bob when I have asked him what his plans are.
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> But thanks anyway. And I hope you're OK.It would be nice to know what the doctor's plans are for maintaining Psycho-Babble. I hope he has no plans to retire his website any time soon.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2009, at 19:46:23
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
Scott that's the rat I smell. Phillipa
Posted by 10derHeart on August 22, 2009, at 20:26:42
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
Posted by Angela2 on August 22, 2009, at 21:49:42
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
It doesn't sound like Dr. Bob has plans to get rid of PB. But I wonder along with the rest of u guys how the site will be maintained with 2 deputies gone.
Posted by 10derHeart on August 23, 2009, at 0:21:41
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Angela2 on August 22, 2009, at 21:49:42
Though I get your wondering and worry, Angela, I think the impact of just my resignation and Dinah's inability to do deputy duties *for now* is far less of a problem than it might seem.
I'd say during my tenure it was the exception, never the rule, when all three deputies were available, all at once. Many times it was only one, and sometimes, none. It ebbs and flows, like life. I loved those times when we could all consult, share things, etc.,, but it wasn't all that realistic to have that happen often. Even in the the extreme of none - Dr. Bob knew that and could check in more himself.
Most times only one or two deputies were available at any given moment, day, week, etc. During my 3 years, we all had plenty of the normal (and maybe not-so-normal) family, personal, job, school, etc., stuff go on IRL. We had our own MH issues. We got busy, tired, lazy, frustrated, confused, ill, and so on and so forth. We found ourselves faced with situations on the boards we either didn't understand, or did, but didn't feel comfortable or equipped to cope with. But still, with the reality and humanness of all that, I think even in times of great upset, with lots of activity, issues, many notifications, etc., the number of deputies rarely became a factor. Any of those times that I recall, what was needed was Dr. Bob. Period. To make a decision, or do things deputies couldn't or didn't choose to do Everything deputies do is entirely voluntary, at all times. And Dr. Bob - well, he will be available as much or as little as he chooses, I think, as always.
Also....Dinah is not gone. I am the only deputy who resigned. Her situation is temporary. I'm unsure how else to articulate that her situation and mine were/are about as different as night and day. I just hope most posters can just believe me, based on long knowledge of me here.
I can think of ways Dr. Bob will maintain the site, and that posters can help.
Of course, posters can do their best to be civil and try to follow other guidelines in the FAQ :-)
Dr. Bob can be around more.
Dinah's current issue will get resolved soon and she will be around as usual.
I will help in ways it's appropriate for a non-deputy poster to help. Civility buddy, if anyone would like. Routine questions on Admin like, "How do I...?" "Where in the FAQ does it say...?" No longer being a deputy doesn't erase my memory, habits and instinct. Maybe I'll spot things others who have never been deputies might miss, that would help the current admin. I don't know, but I'll try when I can. Not too much, but not too little, I hope. It's the least I can do, and I will to the extent I'm not annoying the heck out of my former fellow deputies and Dr. Bob.... I am be sooo annoying...
Babble won't be all that terribly busy with posts - it hasn't been for a while (not that I like that at all, but it's current factor that actually helps if there are less posters helping administrate for a while...)
Others will likely volunteer to be deputies, just like I did. I can think of at least five posters, including myself, who are *former* deputies right now. Dinah is the only one who has been a deputy nearly (?) from he beginning of Babble.
So I really, really think it will be alright. Sure, maybe some slowness of response, or a transition period, but that's Babble and that's life, too, isn't it? :-)
If you made it this far, you rock! Sorry so long-winded, it's genetic, I figure...
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
In reply to maintaining Babble, as I see it » Angela2, posted by 10derHeart on August 23, 2009, at 0:21:41
> People now come and go and don't stick around.
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> Phillipa> I remember when I couldn't keep up with all the posts and threads, and now I come back every 10 -14 days and its easy to catch up. I miss all the traffic and posters. I long for those days but I am afraid it is the end of an era. so many friends gone now.
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> rskWould you like more people to stick around? Or to come in the first place? Would you like old friends to return?
If so, can you think of anything you can do to help?
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> Does this mean that you're going to be around more Dr. Bob
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> rsk> It would be nice to know what the doctor's plans are for maintaining Psycho-Babble. I hope he has no plans to retire his website any time soon.
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> - Scott> Others will likely volunteer to be deputies, just like I did.
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> 10derHeartI'm trying to be around more. The more supportive you all are to each other, the easier it will be for me and Racer until Dinah can be a deputy again. And until new deputies join the ranks. I have no plans to retire this site.
Bob
Posted by SLS on August 23, 2009, at 7:43:35
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
> I have no plans to retire this site.
Thank you.
- Scott
Posted by Partlycloudy on August 23, 2009, at 10:57:55
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
Thanks for answering us all - I appreciate it.
pc
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