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Posted by rskontos on August 22, 2009, at 1:00:00
In reply to Dinah has definitely not resigned (nm) » rskontos, posted by 10derHeart on August 21, 2009, at 20:46:35
Dinah or Racer. It was just my concern for both.
rsk
Posted by Sigismund on August 22, 2009, at 1:34:21
In reply to And who can forget Timne... » Sigismund, posted by gobbledygook on August 21, 2009, at 23:32:04
>And who can forget Timne...a brief but intriguing visitor.
>He came through like a comet blazing across the evening sky.
>Definitely controversial, but dazzling and brilliant mind. I really enjoyed reading his posts. During the mid portion of his time here, his posts
were especially intellectually stimulating...Sophie Scholl, Sharia banking, Occam's razor, broken windows theory, freefall, and such...>In the end he got a little "worked-up" and "hot under the collar", unfortunately, but he sure went out with a bang...
>I hope he and "his friend" are doing well in their "nation".
>And I hope all's well with you, Sig!
>Ava
Hello AvaHe was such fun. I hadn't laughed so much since zazenducke splashed around and left in a flap.
He must be the only babbler ever to succeed in undoing his registration. I don't imagine he'd be very impressed to hear that, but anyway....I'm dreading summer. My wife is trying to get me volunteer English teaching in Vietnam. I could be quite good at it if I don't freak out for one reason or another.
Nice to see you here
Sig
Posted by Dinah on August 22, 2009, at 8:39:10
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Partlycloudy on August 21, 2009, at 19:23:45
What is he to explain? He left it to the deputies involved to comment, I imagine because he felt that that was proper. He thanked 10der for her service. I guess he could explain that he's making himself more available during this time, in case it wasn't evident.
I know Babble is down to one deputy. I feel bad enough about that myself. If I could be a deputy right now, I would. But I can't. I hope that it's very temporary.
10der and I have both stated that there was no common cause for our stepping down.
I find that with Dr. Bob, asking very specific questions improves my chance for an answer. If you're concerned about Babble's moderation during this time, perhaps you could ask him specifically what his thoughts are, including any specific concerns you wish him to cover.
Posted by Partlycloudy on August 22, 2009, at 8:58:38
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk? » Partlycloudy, posted by Dinah on August 22, 2009, at 8:39:10
>
> I find that with Dr. Bob, asking very specific questions improves my chance for an answer. If you're concerned about Babble's moderation during this time, perhaps you could ask him specifically what his thoughts are, including any specific concerns you wish him to cover.I think I have been specific enough in my stated concerns. I don't think it should be up to either you nor 10der to speak for Dr Bob when I have asked him what his plans are.
But thanks anyway. And I hope you're OK.
Posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Partlycloudy on August 22, 2009, at 8:58:38
> I think I have been specific enough in my stated concerns. I don't think it should be up to either you nor 10der to speak for Dr Bob when I have asked him what his plans are.
>
> But thanks anyway. And I hope you're OK.It would be nice to know what the doctor's plans are for maintaining Psycho-Babble. I hope he has no plans to retire his website any time soon.
- Scott
Posted by Phillipa on August 22, 2009, at 19:46:23
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
Scott that's the rat I smell. Phillipa
Posted by 10derHeart on August 22, 2009, at 20:26:42
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
Posted by Angela2 on August 22, 2009, at 21:49:42
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by SLS on August 22, 2009, at 9:46:30
It doesn't sound like Dr. Bob has plans to get rid of PB. But I wonder along with the rest of u guys how the site will be maintained with 2 deputies gone.
Posted by 10derHeart on August 23, 2009, at 0:21:41
In reply to Re: Dr Bob, time for some plain talk?, posted by Angela2 on August 22, 2009, at 21:49:42
Though I get your wondering and worry, Angela, I think the impact of just my resignation and Dinah's inability to do deputy duties *for now* is far less of a problem than it might seem.
I'd say during my tenure it was the exception, never the rule, when all three deputies were available, all at once. Many times it was only one, and sometimes, none. It ebbs and flows, like life. I loved those times when we could all consult, share things, etc.,, but it wasn't all that realistic to have that happen often. Even in the the extreme of none - Dr. Bob knew that and could check in more himself.
Most times only one or two deputies were available at any given moment, day, week, etc. During my 3 years, we all had plenty of the normal (and maybe not-so-normal) family, personal, job, school, etc., stuff go on IRL. We had our own MH issues. We got busy, tired, lazy, frustrated, confused, ill, and so on and so forth. We found ourselves faced with situations on the boards we either didn't understand, or did, but didn't feel comfortable or equipped to cope with. But still, with the reality and humanness of all that, I think even in times of great upset, with lots of activity, issues, many notifications, etc., the number of deputies rarely became a factor. Any of those times that I recall, what was needed was Dr. Bob. Period. To make a decision, or do things deputies couldn't or didn't choose to do Everything deputies do is entirely voluntary, at all times. And Dr. Bob - well, he will be available as much or as little as he chooses, I think, as always.
Also....Dinah is not gone. I am the only deputy who resigned. Her situation is temporary. I'm unsure how else to articulate that her situation and mine were/are about as different as night and day. I just hope most posters can just believe me, based on long knowledge of me here.
I can think of ways Dr. Bob will maintain the site, and that posters can help.
Of course, posters can do their best to be civil and try to follow other guidelines in the FAQ :-)
Dr. Bob can be around more.
Dinah's current issue will get resolved soon and she will be around as usual.
I will help in ways it's appropriate for a non-deputy poster to help. Civility buddy, if anyone would like. Routine questions on Admin like, "How do I...?" "Where in the FAQ does it say...?" No longer being a deputy doesn't erase my memory, habits and instinct. Maybe I'll spot things others who have never been deputies might miss, that would help the current admin. I don't know, but I'll try when I can. Not too much, but not too little, I hope. It's the least I can do, and I will to the extent I'm not annoying the heck out of my former fellow deputies and Dr. Bob.... I am be sooo annoying...
Babble won't be all that terribly busy with posts - it hasn't been for a while (not that I like that at all, but it's current factor that actually helps if there are less posters helping administrate for a while...)
Others will likely volunteer to be deputies, just like I did. I can think of at least five posters, including myself, who are *former* deputies right now. Dinah is the only one who has been a deputy nearly (?) from he beginning of Babble.
So I really, really think it will be alright. Sure, maybe some slowness of response, or a transition period, but that's Babble and that's life, too, isn't it? :-)
If you made it this far, you rock! Sorry so long-winded, it's genetic, I figure...
Posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
In reply to maintaining Babble, as I see it » Angela2, posted by 10derHeart on August 23, 2009, at 0:21:41
> People now come and go and don't stick around.
>
> Phillipa> I remember when I couldn't keep up with all the posts and threads, and now I come back every 10 -14 days and its easy to catch up. I miss all the traffic and posters. I long for those days but I am afraid it is the end of an era. so many friends gone now.
>
> rskWould you like more people to stick around? Or to come in the first place? Would you like old friends to return?
If so, can you think of anything you can do to help?
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> Does this mean that you're going to be around more Dr. Bob
>
> rsk> It would be nice to know what the doctor's plans are for maintaining Psycho-Babble. I hope he has no plans to retire his website any time soon.
>
> - Scott> Others will likely volunteer to be deputies, just like I did.
>
> 10derHeartI'm trying to be around more. The more supportive you all are to each other, the easier it will be for me and Racer until Dinah can be a deputy again. And until new deputies join the ranks. I have no plans to retire this site.
Bob
Posted by SLS on August 23, 2009, at 7:43:35
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
> I have no plans to retire this site.
Thank you.
- Scott
Posted by Partlycloudy on August 23, 2009, at 10:57:55
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
Thanks for answering us all - I appreciate it.
pc
Posted by Deneb on August 23, 2009, at 12:19:29
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
Dr. Bob, if you really need more deputies, I can offer to be one if you think I am able. I don't like having much power though and I worry people see me as unstable, so if you think I should wait a while first that would be OK.
Of course I would love being able to communicate with you more. Of course I'll try to be professional.
I'll try really really hard to post good things so people don't get upset. I worry people won't trust a deputy who posts upsetting things.
Anyways, if you really need more deputies you can train me as one if you think I am suitable for the job.
I really won't be offended if you think I am not suitable for the job.
I would prefer not having any responsibilities at all, but I will volunteer if Babble really really needs deputies.
Babble is important to me and I will help it out if no one else will.
Posted by Phillipa on August 23, 2009, at 12:33:16
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
Dr. Bob yes I'd love the old posters to return and have asked them via e-mail or another site and none are inclined to. Some and not being mean or uncivil just repeating what they said so will put in quotes said " Babble made me sicker" That was their response. Phillipa
Posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 12:39:19
In reply to maintaining Babble, as I see it » Angela2, posted by 10derHeart on August 23, 2009, at 0:21:41
Good post 10derheart!
Thanks you.
Posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 12:42:47
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, posted by Dr. Bob on August 23, 2009, at 4:42:58
Dr. Bob, thanks for posting this. I agree. If we are all supportive of one another we will not need deputies as much.
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:04:54
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble » Dr. Bob, posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 12:42:47
> Dr. Bob, thanks for posting this. I agree. If we are all supportive of one another we will not need deputies as much.
Angela2,
You wrote,[...supportive of one another...].
I am unsure of what your conception ofwhat constitutes support could be. If you could examine the following hypothetical discussion and then answer the following after that, then I could respond accordingly.
In this hypothetical example we have the fictional members Helen Weilz, Seymore Hienz and a new member,Ivan Skidyvan. Here is the discussion:Ivan Skidyvan:
I am under the conviction now that all of these disorders are a result of environmental issues like Pavlov wrote about.Helen Weilz:
Ivan, I think these disorders are a result of environmental issues.
Seymore Heinz:
Ya know Ivan and Helen, I think there could be other possibilities behind these issues.If you could answer the following, then I could have a better understanding of your conception of what constitutes support.
A. If you posted your opinion in a post in that hypothetical thread and you wanted it to be supportive, what could you post?
B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
C. If not, what in your opinion could be the differentiating criteria between support and reinforcement?
D. other aspects not stated
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:12:14
In reply to Lou's request -sprt+reinfrcmt, posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:04:54
> > Dr. Bob, thanks for posting this. I agree. If we are all supportive of one another we will not need deputies as much.
>
> Angela2,
> You wrote,[...supportive of one another...].
> I am unsure of what your conception ofwhat constitutes support could be. If you could examine the following hypothetical discussion and then answer the following after that, then I could respond accordingly.
> In this hypothetical example we have the fictional members Helen Weilz, Seymore Hienz and a new member,Ivan Skidyvan. Here is the discussion:
>
> Ivan Skidyvan:
> I am under the conviction now that all of these disorders are a result of environmental issues like Pavlov wrote about.
>
> Helen Weilz:
> Ivan, I think these disorders are a result of environmental issues.
>
> Seymore Heinz:
> Ya know Ivan and Helen, I think there could be other possibilities behind these issues.
>
> If you could answer the following, then I could have a better understanding of your conception of what constitutes support.
> A. If you posted your opinion in a post in that hypothetical thread and you wanted it to be supportive, what could you post?
> B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
> C. If not, what in your opinion could be the differentiating criteria between support and reinforcement?
> D. other aspects not stated
> Lou> Angela2,
Now in any hypothetical post that you could make here, could you post that in your opinion these disorders could be the result of hereditiy and be supportive according to your conception of what constituites support?
Lou
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Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:34:41
In reply to Lou's request to Angela2 -hrdty, posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:12:14
> > > Dr. Bob, thanks for posting this. I agree. If we are all supportive of one another we will not need deputies as much.
> >
> > Angela2,
> > You wrote,[...supportive of one another...].
> > I am unsure of what your conception ofwhat constitutes support could be. If you could examine the following hypothetical discussion and then answer the following after that, then I could respond accordingly.
> > In this hypothetical example we have the fictional members Helen Weilz, Seymore Hienz and a new member,Ivan Skidyvan. Here is the discussion:
> >
> > Ivan Skidyvan:
> > I am under the conviction now that all of these disorders are a result of environmental issues like Pavlov wrote about.
> >
> > Helen Weilz:
> > Ivan, I think these disorders are a result of environmental issues.
> >
> > Seymore Heinz:
> > Ya know Ivan and Helen, I think there could be other possibilities behind these issues.
> >
> > If you could answer the following, then I could have a better understanding of your conception of what constitutes support.
> > A. If you posted your opinion in a post in that hypothetical thread and you wanted it to be supportive, what could you post?
> > B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
> > C. If not, what in your opinion could be the differentiating criteria between support and reinforcement?
> > D. other aspects not stated
> > Lou
>
> > Angela2,
> Now in any hypothetical post that you could make here, could you post that in your opinion these disorders could be the result of hereditiy and be supportive according to your conception of what constituites support?
> LouAngela2,
If you post here your conception of what constitutes support, could you post an example of a supportive statement to reply to Ivan here?Ivan Skidyvan:
Ya know folks, I think that Lamark was right in his conception of evolution.Lou
Posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 15:52:12
In reply to Lou's request to Angela2 -phlat, posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 14:34:41
Lou, when I am supportive of others, I listen to what they are saying, I may give feedback, advice, or just ((((hugs)))) to let them know someone hears them and cares.
Ivan Skidyvan:
Ya know folks, I think that Lamark was right in his conception of evolution.My reply to Ivan would be one of two: 1. I wouldn't say anything because I don't know who Lamark is and what he believes about evolution. 2. if I'm feeling curious I would ask Ivan what Lamark believes about evolution.
>>>B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
I am not sure I have a good grasp on what reinforcement is here. is reinforcement, agreeing with the poster's statement?
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 16:50:43
In reply to Re: Lou's request to Angela2 -phlat, posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 15:52:12
> Lou, when I am supportive of others, I listen to what they are saying, I may give feedback, advice, or just ((((hugs)))) to let them know someone hears them and cares.
>
> Ivan Skidyvan:
> Ya know folks, I think that Lamark was right in his conception of evolution.
>
> My reply to Ivan would be one of two: 1. I wouldn't say anything because I don't know who Lamark is and what he believes about evolution. 2. if I'm feeling curious I would ask Ivan what Lamark believes about evolution.
>
> >>>B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
>
> I am not sure I have a good grasp on what reinforcement is here. is reinforcement, agreeing with the poster's statement?Angela2
You wrote, [...I would ask Ivan Skidyvan what Lamark believes...].
That is good as I see it as being supportive. The asking is showing that one has read his post. The asking also gives him the opportunity to explain what is being asked. This could be good for the community as the explanation could bring out more education and support (which I have not defined my understanding of here as of yet).
Lou
Posted by Sigismund on August 23, 2009, at 17:12:29
In reply to Lou's reply- » Angela2, posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 16:50:43
I would say to Ivan
'Lamark has come back into fashion. Is that right? Can you tell me how and why?'
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 17:23:20
In reply to Re: Lou's reply-, posted by Sigismund on August 23, 2009, at 17:12:29
> I would say to Ivan
> 'Lamark has come back into fashion. Is that right? Can you tell me how and why?'Sigismund,
Now Sigmund Freud believed in Lamark's concept of evolution. Larmark's concept was different from Darwin's concept.
I have not heard of any acceptance from the scientific community of Lamark's concept of evolution. Have you? If so, could you post here a link to such?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 23, 2009, at 20:06:09
In reply to Re: Lou's request to Angela2 -phlat, posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 15:52:12
> Lou, when I am supportive of others, I listen to what they are saying, I may give feedback, advice, or just ((((hugs)))) to let them know someone hears them and cares.
>
> Ivan Skidyvan:
> Ya know folks, I think that Lamark was right in his conception of evolution.
>
> My reply to Ivan would be one of two: 1. I wouldn't say anything because I don't know who Lamark is and what he believes about evolution. 2. if I'm feeling curious I would ask Ivan what Lamark believes about evolution.
>
> >>>B. In such a post, could there be reinforcement to one side and if so, could then reinforcement be the same in your opinion as support?
>
> I am not sure I have a good grasp on what reinforcement is here. is reinforcement, agreeing with the poster's statement?Angela2,
You wrote,[...is reinforcment...?]
Let's look at another hypothetical discussion. This time Ivan says that he belongs to the flat earth society and is looking for members to discuss his views.Ivan Skidyvan posts;
The earth is flat and all those pictures from space are faked.Could you post an example of a post to Ivan that could be in your thinking of what support means?
Lou
Posted by 10derHeart on August 24, 2009, at 15:52:02
In reply to Re: maintaining Babble, as I see it » 10derHeart, posted by Angela2 on August 23, 2009, at 12:39:19
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