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Posted by KaraS on August 15, 2005, at 23:07:47
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » linkadge, posted by ed_uk on August 15, 2005, at 19:09:07
> >That was so kind.
>
> Kara is the sweetest :-)
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> ~Ed
Aw, shucks...k
Posted by Declan on August 16, 2005, at 1:34:53
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Declan, posted by ed_uk on August 15, 2005, at 15:08:31
Hi Ed
When I was climbing Mt Warning this morning I had the same idea.
Declan
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2005, at 2:46:02
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » linkadge, posted by Maximus on August 14, 2005, at 16:16:09
> > >Hmmm, interesting. Tell us more.....
> >
> > My biggest problem, I guess, is that I'm still in school. While I'd love to meet somebody, I'm not sure I'd know how to ballance the two.
>
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> Well bud, give it a try on the female side, at least one time. You might be surprised. There is still hope...
>
I just wanted to add that I hope you didn't feel put down at all by my post to Linkadge. I could tell that you were trying to be supportive and helpful to him rather than judgemental. I just didn't agree with you because I've seen too many friends try to push themselves in the hetero direction and I've never seen it work. It only caused them unnecessary suffering.Kara
Posted by ed_uk on August 16, 2005, at 4:52:07
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » ed_uk, posted by Declan on August 16, 2005, at 1:34:53
Hi Declan,
>When I was climbing Mt Warning this morning I had the same idea.
About meeting babblers?
~Ed
Posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 12:55:30
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Maximus, posted by KaraS on August 16, 2005, at 2:46:02
> I just wanted to add that I hope you didn't >feel put down at all by my post to Linkadge.
No, not at all :-)
>I >could tell that you were trying to be >supportive and helpful to him rather than >judgemental.
Yes i was trying...
>I just didn't agree with you >because I've seen >too many friends try to push >themselves in the >hetero direction and I've >never seen it work. >It only caused them >unnecessary suffering.
No problem. I also partially share your point of view. I just don't understand the dynamic of this disorder.Have a good day!
Posted by linkadge on August 16, 2005, at 15:24:07
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 12:55:30
Yeah, I guess you could call it a disorder, others would protest but hey, thats me.
Linkadge
Posted by ed_uk on August 16, 2005, at 15:43:54
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by linkadge on August 16, 2005, at 15:24:07
Link,
We're disordered :-O
~Ed
Posted by KaraS on August 16, 2005, at 17:46:30
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 12:55:30
> > I just wanted to add that I hope you didn't >feel put down at all by my post to Linkadge.
>
>
> No, not at all :-)
Glad to hear it!
> >I >could tell that you were trying to be >supportive and helpful to him rather than >judgemental.
>
>
> Yes i was trying...
Linkadge knew that too.
> >I just didn't agree with you >because I've seen >too many friends try to push >themselves in the >hetero direction and I've >never seen it work. >It only caused them >unnecessary suffering.
>
>
> No problem. I also partially share your point of view. I just don't understand the dynamic of this disorder.
>
Yes, we really do see this differently because I see it as an alternative rather than a disorder (just like some people have white skin and some people have black skin). But we can agree to disagree.> Have a good day!
You too!
K
Posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 18:47:16
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Maximus, posted by KaraS on August 16, 2005, at 17:46:30
> Yes, we really do see this differently because >I see it as an alternative rather than a >disorder (just like some people have white skin >and some people have black skin). But we can >agree to disagree.
Yes, of course we can. Anyway, i was just trying to bring help to some babblers. No more no less. One day they will discover the genetic flaw which leads to this behavior. And i hope the same thing for the mental illness.Bye.
Posted by zeugma on August 16, 2005, at 18:58:43
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 18:47:16
> > Yes, we really do see this differently because >I see it as an alternative rather than a >disorder (just like some people have white skin >and some people have black skin). But we can >agree to disagree.
>
>
> Yes, of course we can. Anyway, i was just trying to bring help to some babblers. No more no less. One day they will discover the genetic flaw which leads to this behavior.Poor use of words. If only scientists were interested in discovering the source of that 'flaw.'
-z
Posted by Phillipa on August 16, 2005, at 19:52:11
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Maximus, posted by zeugma on August 16, 2005, at 18:58:43
Why do you call it a flaw? Some like thin women, some like them fat, and some like tall or short. I just see this as a preference. Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by zeugma on August 16, 2005, at 20:07:13
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » zeugma, posted by Phillipa on August 16, 2005, at 19:52:11
what I meant by 'flaw' and what Maximus meant are two different things.
I don't think sexual preference is a flaw.
-z
Posted by Phillipa on August 16, 2005, at 20:15:04
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Phillipa, posted by zeugma on August 16, 2005, at 20:07:13
Oh Sorry! Fondly, Phillipa
Posted by ed_uk on August 17, 2005, at 3:58:52
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 18:47:16
>flaw
I feel hurt
~ed
Posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 5:19:44
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Declan, posted by ed_uk on August 16, 2005, at 4:52:07
Not just meeting Babblers, for some reason half way up I thought about oxycodone instead of oxycontin for such an occasion, just the normal chatter.
Declan
Posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 5:24:41
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » ed_uk, posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 5:19:44
Gee, disorder, flaws, this is too silly. I mean, that's me.
Declan
Posted by ed_uk on August 17, 2005, at 8:12:17
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 5:24:41
:-)
~ed
Posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 15:32:05
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » Declan, posted by ed_uk on August 17, 2005, at 8:12:17
:-) to you too.
Declan
Posted by linkadge on August 17, 2005, at 16:47:13
In reply to Re: Someone in mind » KaraS, posted by Maximus on August 16, 2005, at 18:47:16
"One day they will discover the genetic flaw which leads to this behavior"
That is kind of a totalitarian way of putting it.
Homosexuality is not considered a mental illness. I think that since, many people in this position aren't suffering or hurting anybody, it will never be a focus of medical science. I know it discusts you but....
Just like we aren't really working to find a cure for left handedness, although at one point in time, people thought we should be.If a pill was to take it away over night, I would't recognize myself.
Linkadge
Posted by linkadge on August 17, 2005, at 16:50:49
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by Declan on August 17, 2005, at 15:32:05
I'm sure a lot of "stright" people would feel offended if I told them their attraction was "flawed".
Linkadge
Posted by Declan on August 18, 2005, at 0:17:04
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by linkadge on August 17, 2005, at 16:50:49
Well of course it used to be a mental illness and then the committee that decides what goes in the DSM decided it wasn't, just like they decided not to put in 'innapropriate male aggression' and so on.
This doesn't even deserve the respect one might give to the concept of witchcraft, well maybe I'm too nostalgic.
Declan
Posted by Tamar on August 18, 2005, at 4:32:36
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by linkadge on August 17, 2005, at 16:47:13
> If a pill was to take it away over night, I would't recognize myself.
If someone marketed a pill to 'cure' homosexuality, I certainly wouldn't take it!
Tamar
Posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 9:09:12
In reply to Re: Someone in mind, posted by Declan on August 18, 2005, at 0:17:04
Hi Dec,
>'innapropriate male aggression'
LOL, I guess they'd get classified as 'antisocial personality disorder' these days.
~ed
Posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 9:09:58
In reply to bitter pill, posted by Tamar on August 18, 2005, at 4:32:36
I wouldn't take it either.
~ed
Posted by Declan on August 18, 2005, at 15:39:56
In reply to Re: bitter pill » Tamar, posted by ed_uk on August 18, 2005, at 9:09:58
We are *such* social creatures, shaping ourselves to our surroundings and this makes us vulnerable to fitting in at the expense of self acceptance.
You know...To thine own self be true etc.
Declan
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