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Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:17:31
Just wondering if anyone out there is worried about the housing market and when they think it might get better or will it get worse? Anyone concerned. Plans for high gas prices, jobs, etc. Money to live? Thanks Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 20, 2008, at 16:33:34
In reply to Anyone With Knowledge of Housing Market Time Frame, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 12:17:31
> Just wondering if anyone out there is worried about the housing market and when they think it might get better or will it get worse? Anyone concerned. Plans for high gas prices, jobs, etc. Money to live? Thanks Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...if anyone...when they think it might get better...]
The view from my desk is that I think that the housing market will get better after two more years with a turn around in 2010. I think that because of factors that are complex and I could explain them here if one would like for me to do that. This involves the FED, the banks, oil and commodity and health related prices, the election, interest rates, unemployment rates, GDP, PPI, the wars in the middle east and other factors such as the automotive and health-care industries. There are great paralles in the world political and economic environments now with those durring 1922-1942 so that a discussion with me here could bring those into the discussion. In particular, but not limited to, the aspect of the world-wide drug manufacturers and psychiatrists/psychologists and how real estate is connected to this in a world-wide market, for real estate is experiancing what we have here in some European countries also so that this is a world-wide issue, not just in the U.S. I can connect all of this together. This may have the potential IMO to bring into the discussion aspects that could be unbeknownst to some that could be of the nature that could be shocking to some here because of that psychotropic drugs and psychiatry and psychology are what could bring members to this forum and thearfore I am declaring this in advance as a trigger warning and would like discussants to be aware that I have a huge body of knowlege concerning the question at hand here and may just be the most knowlegable member here to provide this infomation to those intereted.
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 19:21:16
In reply to Lou's reply to Phillipa's querry-wwdrugcrtel » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 20, 2008, at 16:33:34
Lou well let's hear your reasoning or e-mail if you desire. I'd love to hear what you have to say. Love Phillipa ps heard also it would be like the depression of the past.
Posted by Kath on May 20, 2008, at 20:19:47
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa's querry-wwdrugcrtel » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 19:21:16
We know someone who has AMAZING doom & gloom predictions. He was at a potluck supper hubby went to (I didn't feel like going) & he monopolized the converstation with such gloom & doom that FINALLY the hostess sort of said, 'Enough! Let's talk about something more uplifting!!' But he was talking about 'put your money into precious metals as everything else is going down the t***et' etc. It was really scarey & depressing.
I can't handle hearing that stuff. I guess I'm a bit of an ostrich about it. I probably won't read the thread.
Kath
Posted by Kath on May 20, 2008, at 20:20:29
In reply to Lou's reply to Phillipa's querry-wwdrugcrtel » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 20, 2008, at 16:33:34
Hi Lou - thanks for warning us ahead of time.
cheerio, Kath
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 4:56:35
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa's querry-wwdrugcrtel » Lou Pilder, posted by Kath on May 20, 2008, at 20:20:29
> Hi Lou - thanks for warning us ahead of time.
>
> cheerio, KathKath,
You wrote,[...cheerio...].
Are you from Britian? Here is a link to an article that containes some of the aspects that could enter into this discussion.
Lou
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/14/business/worldbusiness/14real.html?_r=1&pagewanted=all
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 6:05:22
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa's querry-wwdrugcrtel » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on May 20, 2008, at 19:21:16
> Lou well let's hear your reasoning or e-mail if you desire. I'd love to hear what you have to say. Love Phillipa ps heard also it would be like the depression of the past.
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...I'd love to hear...depression of the past...]
Here is a link to an article that could be of interest in this discussion.
Lou
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/7412091.stm
Posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2008, at 12:18:17
In reply to Lou's reply to Phillipa-deppat » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 6:05:22
Lou I want to know what is happening in this country and what the job market will be. Phillipa
Posted by Kath on May 21, 2008, at 12:26:30
In reply to Lou's reply to Kath-glumndume » Kath, posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 4:56:35
Hi Lou,
Nope I'm from Canada - don't know why I said that really - I guess it just sounded cheery & friendly. I wanted you to know I was feeling friendly towards you! :-))))))
Thanks for the link Lou, :-)) Kath
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 19:45:31
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Kath-glumndume » Lou Pilder, posted by Kath on May 21, 2008, at 12:26:30
> Hi Lou,
>
> Nope I'm from Canada - don't know why I said that really - I guess it just sounded cheery & friendly. I wanted you to know I was feeling friendly towards you! :-))))))
>
> Thanks for the link Lou, :-)) KathKath,
You wrote,[...feeling friendly...].
Lou's first smiley this year, :-)
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 19:51:24
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa-deppat » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2008, at 12:18:17
> Lou I want to know what is happening in this country and what the job market will be. Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...what is happening in this country...the job market....].
What part of {what is happening in this country} would you like to know?
Lou
Posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2008, at 20:49:46
In reply to Lou's reply to Phillipa- » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 19:51:24
Are we going into a depression with people losing a lot of jobs? Phillipa
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2008, at 20:53:23
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa- » Lou Pilder, posted by Phillipa on May 21, 2008, at 20:49:46
> Are we going into a depression with people losing a lot of jobs? Phillipa
Phillipa,
You wrote,[...into a depression...losing jobs?...]
I can not see into the future. Yet today, I see the circumstances surrounding the depression that started in 1929 to be at hand. And today, there are others that can see those paralles also. The issue to me is not as to if there is going to be a depression, but as to what can be done now to prevent a depression. For IMO all that is needed to be to have a depression, is for it to be allowed to happen.
Lou
Posted by Kath on May 23, 2008, at 20:18:41
In reply to Lou's reply to Kath-gtngtunoghu » Kath, posted by Lou Pilder on May 21, 2008, at 19:45:31
Aw :-)))))))
There's a REALLY big smiley :-)
hugs, Kath
Posted by Sigismund on May 25, 2008, at 18:58:38
In reply to Lou's reply to Phillipa-szhehzdamezlsbthzrlyhvgfn » Phillipa, posted by Lou Pilder on May 22, 2008, at 20:53:23
The increased demand from India and China for oil will lead to a price increase until demand slows.
This will lead into price rises across the board (especially food!) and might (for all I know) slow economic growth more.
As for the immediate credit thing, it's beyond me, but I would have expected it to last a bit longer.
Posted by Sigismund on May 25, 2008, at 19:05:28
In reply to Re: Lou's reply to Phillipa-szhehzdamezlsbthzrlyhvgfn, posted by Sigismund on May 25, 2008, at 18:58:38
Out of interest, how much do you pay for petrol and deisel?
Deisel is now A$1.65/litre here, which might be about US$1.50/l.
1 gallon equals 4.8 litres?
Or are there imperial gallons and American gallons?
Anyway if the gallons we used to have are the same as yours, we pay around US$7.20/gallon.
Does that sound right?
Posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2008, at 21:18:43
In reply to Petrol prices, posted by Sigismund on May 25, 2008, at 19:05:28
Depends where you live in the USA today in North Carolina paid $3.86 gallon. Love Phillipa
Posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 0:25:20
In reply to Re: Petrol prices » Sigismund, posted by Phillipa on May 25, 2008, at 21:18:43
Half our prices then, PJ.
Posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 1:57:00
In reply to Re: Petrol prices » Phillipa, posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 0:25:20
Hey, that's unfair.
Not only is your petrol half price but from what I hear alcohol is half price too.
Posted by Larry Hoover on May 26, 2008, at 7:08:14
In reply to Petrol prices, posted by Sigismund on May 25, 2008, at 19:05:28
> Out of interest, how much do you pay for petrol and deisel?
>
> Deisel is now A$1.65/litre here, which might be about US$1.50/l.
>
> 1 gallon equals 4.8 litres?1 Imperial gallon = 4.54609188 liters
> Or are there imperial gallons and American gallons?
Yes, there are two different gallons to consider. A U.S. gallon is based on four cups to the quart, rather than the Imperial five. That gives a U.S. quart of 32 oz (vs 40), and a U.S. gallon of 128 oz (vs 160).
1 US gallon = 3.78541178 liters
The two conversion ratios I provide are from Google Calculator. Just enter any mathematical calculation or conversion you desire, in real language, right in the search box, and it will spit out the answer. E.g. 39 Fahrenheit in Celcius, U.S. gallon in litres, 64.22 divided by 11....
> Anyway if the gallons we used to have are the same as yours, we pay around US$7.20/gallon.> Does that sound right?
In U.S. gallons, you're paying US$5.68/gallon.
In the U.K., they're paying ~US$9.60.
I last paid US$5.10 (Canada), and we are a huge petroleum exporter nation. Our prices have been sitting about 10-20% higher than typical U.S. prices since the beginning of the year.Gasoline (petrol) is cheaper than diesel locally, for the first time I can recall. There's a diesel shortage in Europe, and they're buying up North American supplies.
Lar
Posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 14:13:00
In reply to Re: Petrol prices » Sigismund, posted by Larry Hoover on May 26, 2008, at 7:08:14
They say the Chinese are stockpiling deisel, perhaps in response to the earthquake, perhaps for the Olympics.
Posted by caraher on May 26, 2008, at 14:43:13
In reply to Re: Petrol prices » Larry Hoover, posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 14:13:00
> They say the Chinese are stockpiling deisel, perhaps in response to the earthquake, perhaps for the Olympics.
heck, I can see stockpiling it simply because we're at or near "peak oil" and the price of petroleum products can only increase until we wean ourselves from the stuff. Which I hope we have the wisdom to do voluntarily, rather than involuntarily as it becomes impossible to extract in an economically and environmentally-responsible way.
From that perspective, price hikes aren't all bad - they should spur a change that needs to happen anyway. Though it's a shame the way it's clobbering the budgets of ordinary people...
Posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 19:33:51
In reply to Re: Petrol prices, posted by caraher on May 26, 2008, at 14:43:13
That's right. The sooner they rise the better...not from the point of view of ordinary people trying to cope (and eat!!), but because nothing else will convince people that we have to do something.
Australia could have lead the world in solar technology. Instead our people went to California (where one is building a solar power plant), China (dunno what he's doing, but he's made a mint) and Germany (dunno). Instead the government thought it was more clever to use the issue to wedge the opposition with a suggestion of nuclear power. And otherwise did nothing. Whole suburbs have been built with houses with black roofs.
I don't get it: This has been staring us in the face since 1980. Peak oil has already passed, hasn't it?
It is interesting how Islamic banking and the Chinese are doing joint venures around this. Looks like globalisation is not the City on the Hill.
Posted by caraher on May 27, 2008, at 10:53:56
In reply to Rant, posted by Sigismund on May 26, 2008, at 19:33:51
I find this promotion quite disturbing: http://www.chrysler.com/en/refuel/index.html?bid=1758115&adid=202631600&pid=12206054
Let's Re-Fool America!
Posted by Lou Pilder on May 27, 2008, at 11:16:38
In reply to Re: Rant, posted by caraher on May 27, 2008, at 10:53:56
> I find this promotion quite disturbing: http://www.chrysler.com/en/refuel/index.html?bid=1758115&adid=202631600&pid=12206054
>
> Let's Re-Fool America!Friends,
It is written here,[...this promotion ..disturbing...].
I am unsure as to what the advertisment purports as to be disturbing. If anyone could list the criteria seen in the advertisment that could constitute to be disturbing in your opinion, then I could have the opportunity to respond accordingly.
Lou
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