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Posted by PhoenixGirl on February 5, 2001, at 15:58:48
I've read that the herb ma-huang is similar to norepinepherine, and may relieve depression. Has anyone ever heard of this? I also read that it can cause euphoria, but it seems that a substance that can cause euphoria would not be available over the counter. But who knows. I read about ma huang and ephedrine on a website about CNS stimulants.
Posted by Katz on February 5, 2001, at 18:15:35
In reply to Ma huang/ ephedrine for depression, posted by PhoenixGirl on February 5, 2001, at 15:58:48
>Hi Phoenix,
I have used ma-huang (epehedra) on several occassions. It is a CNS stimulant. It does increase heart rate. I have found it's stimulating effects last only about a week before poop out. It works as an appetite suppressant for that amount of time also. It has not been a good drug for me. It's benefits are just too short lived. I have never found it to produce any euphoric or anti-depressant properties. Infact, it made me feel like I was PMS. It did not help my anhadonia or social phobia. Again, everyone is different. Give it a try. Effects are immediate so there is no great investment in time by way of a long trial. Personally, my hunch is it probably won't do what your looking for it to do.
All the best,
Kathy
I've read that the herb ma-huang is similar to norepinepherine, and may relieve depression. Has anyone ever heard of this? I also read that it can cause euphoria, but it seems that a substance that can cause euphoria would not be available over the counter. But who knows. I read about ma huang and ephedrine on a website about CNS stimulants.
Posted by AndrewB on February 6, 2001, at 0:23:22
In reply to Re: Ma huang/ ephedrine for depression » PhoenixGirl, posted by Katz on February 5, 2001, at 18:15:35
I believe the story is always the same with ephedrine/ Ma huang. That is increased energy and, for some, elevated mood for a time and then a crash where you are lower than when you started. I would suggest you avoid either of these. BTW take claims on the internet, especially by those selling there products, with a grain of salt.
AndrewB
Posted by LMM on February 6, 2001, at 8:35:29
In reply to Re: Ma huang/ ephedrine for depression, posted by AndrewB on February 6, 2001, at 0:23:22
> I believe the story is always the same with ephedrine/ Ma huang. That is increased energy and, for some, elevated mood for a time and then a crash where you are lower than when you started. I would suggest you avoid either of these. BTW take claims on the internet, especially by those selling there products, with a grain of salt.
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> AndrewBI believe I was hooked on epherdrine for 5 years and nobody knew. I finally quit because of the bad publicity it got.
It's bad for you, can cause heart deffects. When I took it I could run for miles (18 miles non stop at one point). I became very thin at first, I had lots of energy but it made me very bitchy.
I'm now on Wellbutrin SR (3 wks) and have had no side effects, I sleep like a baby, I have not lost weight, and I wonder if it's because of the ephedrine. I am to embarrassed to tell my doctor I was hooked on ephedrine.
As far as I can tell Wellbutrin has had no effect on me.
What do you think?
Posted by PhoenixGirl on February 6, 2001, at 11:10:43
In reply to Re: Ma huang/ ephedrine for depression, posted by LMM on February 6, 2001, at 8:35:29
Lmm,
I've heard about Wellbutrin not having an effect on some people. I take it, and it has no antidepressant effects on me. It helps me stay awake during the day, which is the only reason I take it. When I first started, it was too stimulating, but that has subsided a great deal to where it has little effect on me. Maybe you are just one of those people. I don't know whether or not being hooked on a stimulant causes permanent or long-term changes in the brain that could be affecting your response to Wellbutrin.> I believe the story is always the same with ephedrine/ Ma huang. That is increased energy and, for some, elevated mood for a time and then a crash where you are lower than when you started. I would suggest you avoid either of these. BTW take claims on the internet, especially by those selling there products, with a grain of salt.
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> > AndrewB
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> I believe I was hooked on epherdrine for 5 years and nobody knew. I finally quit because of the bad publicity it got.
> It's bad for you, can cause heart deffects. When I took it I could run for miles (18 miles non stop at one point). I became very thin at first, I had lots of energy but it made me very bitchy.
> I'm now on Wellbutrin SR (3 wks) and have had no side effects, I sleep like a baby, I have not lost weight, and I wonder if it's because of the ephedrine. I am to embarrassed to tell my doctor I was hooked on ephedrine.
> As far as I can tell Wellbutrin has had no effect on me.
> What do you think?
>
Posted by natg on February 6, 2001, at 18:33:30
In reply to Re: Ma huang/ ephedrine for depression » PhoenixGirl, posted by Katz on February 5, 2001, at 18:15:35
> >Hi Phoenix girl;
I was addicted to ephedrine. At first, it was great, i had more energy, alertness and lost weight on it. Over time, I built tolerance to it and needed more and more to function. I had horrible hangovers in the AM.
The initial effect disappeared very quickly and I was getting increasingly angry and short- tempered.Just my personal experience, hope it helps.
Nat
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> I've read that the herb ma-huang is similar to norepinepherine, and may relieve depression. Has anyone ever heard of this? I also read that it can cause euphoria, but it seems that a substance that can cause euphoria would not be available over the counter. But who knows. I read about ma huang and ephedrine on a website about CNS stimulants.
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