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Posted by AJ on March 6, 2001, at 9:56:31
hi folks,
I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
AJ
Posted by ShelliR on March 6, 2001, at 19:27:47
In reply to SAM-e!! please respond!!, posted by AJ on March 6, 2001, at 9:56:31
> hi folks,
>
> I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
>
> I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
>
> Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
>
> AJ
AJ, Dr. Richard Brown, the author of Stop Depression Now (a book about sam-e) says people with bipolar disorder "should not use SAM-e or any other antidepression except under a doctor's supervision, since it can shift them in a manic period."In general sam-e seems to make a lot of people feel shakey, so I think it's not worth the risk of being on it, if bipolar.
shelli
Posted by Bill L on March 7, 2001, at 8:55:29
In reply to SAM-e!! please respond!!, posted by AJ on March 6, 2001, at 9:56:31
I have taken Nature's Rx SAM-e for over 2 years. I take 300 mg (1 and 1/2 pills) each morning with 20 mg Celexa. But I am not bipolar. I have unipolar depression and dysthymia. The combo works very well for me.
I'm not sure if SAM-e is really for bi-polar but I don't know for sure. I have heard of people who feel to jittery on Nature's Rx who do better on Nature Made.
> hi folks,
>
> I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
>
> I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
>
> Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
>
> AJ
Posted by Flipsactown on April 23, 2004, at 22:56:33
In reply to Re: SAM-e!! please respond!!, posted by Bill L on March 7, 2001, at 8:55:29
Out of curiousity, is SAM-e still effective on your unipolar depression? Thanks.
FST
> I have taken Nature's Rx SAM-e for over 2 years. I take 300 mg (1 and 1/2 pills) each morning with 20 mg Celexa. But I am not bipolar. I have unipolar depression and dysthymia. The combo works very well for me.
>
> I'm not sure if SAM-e is really for bi-polar but I don't know for sure. I have heard of people who feel to jittery on Nature's Rx who do better on Nature Made.
>
> > hi folks,
> >
> > I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
> >
> > I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
> >
> > Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
> >
> > AJ
>
>
Posted by Bill LL on April 26, 2004, at 10:19:07
In reply to Re: SAM-e!! please respond!! » Bill L, posted by Flipsactown on April 23, 2004, at 22:56:33
I can't beleive you are responding to my post from 3 years a go! Nature's Rx was discontinued because of a law suit. When tested, it had no SAM-e at all! I think it had a lot of caffeine and that's why it gave me a boost.
I currently am doing very well on 30 mg of Lexapro. I also take ginseng which helps combat tiredness and sexual side effects. And Ashwagandha at night which is calming.
There is lots on info on SAM-e (real SAM-e, not what I took), and herbs on the psychobabble alternatives site.
> Out of curiousity, is SAM-e still effective on your unipolar depression? Thanks.
>
> FST
>
> > I have taken Nature's Rx SAM-e for over 2 years. I take 300 mg (1 and 1/2 pills) each morning with 20 mg Celexa. But I am not bipolar. I have unipolar depression and dysthymia. The combo works very well for me.
> >
> > I'm not sure if SAM-e is really for bi-polar but I don't know for sure. I have heard of people who feel to jittery on Nature's Rx who do better on Nature Made.
> >
> > > hi folks,
> > >
> > > I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
> > >
> > > I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
> > >
> > > Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
> > >
> > > AJ
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Flipsactown on April 26, 2004, at 12:43:53
In reply to Re: SAM-e!! please respond!!, posted by Bill LL on April 26, 2004, at 10:19:07
Thanks for responding. I figured it was too good to be true. Over 20 years ago when my back was injured when struck by a truck, I tried and spent lots of money on DLPA, so called natural pain killer. It did not work for me! I will check out the Alternative site for the so called real SAM-e, so called natural AD, just out of curiousity.
FST
> I can't beleive you are responding to my post from 3 years a go! Nature's Rx was discontinued because of a law suit. When tested, it had no SAM-e at all! I think it had a lot of caffeine and that's why it gave me a boost.
>
> I currently am doing very well on 30 mg of Lexapro. I also take ginseng which helps combat tiredness and sexual side effects. And Ashwagandha at night which is calming.
>
> There is lots on info on SAM-e (real SAM-e, not what I took), and herbs on the psychobabble alternatives site.
>
> > Out of curiousity, is SAM-e still effective on your unipolar depression? Thanks.
> >
> > FST
> >
> > > I have taken Nature's Rx SAM-e for over 2 years. I take 300 mg (1 and 1/2 pills) each morning with 20 mg Celexa. But I am not bipolar. I have unipolar depression and dysthymia. The combo works very well for me.
> > >
> > > I'm not sure if SAM-e is really for bi-polar but I don't know for sure. I have heard of people who feel to jittery on Nature's Rx who do better on Nature Made.
> > >
> > > > hi folks,
> > > >
> > > > I haven't posted before, but have often come to this board for information. It's been really helpful!!
> > > >
> > > > I am a manic-depressive, but due to extreme reactions to medications, I cannot take standard prescription drugs. I started experimenting with alternatives (SAM-e + kava + st.john's wort) and became manic (really more mixed state) this fall and winter. Now I'm only on 200mg. of "nature's rx" SAM-e, but am finding that about an hour after taking it I am shaky, panicy, feel like I'm gonna crawl out of my skin--almost like the akathisia I used to experience on SSRIs.
> > > >
> > > > Has anybody had this experience w/ "nature's rx". Is "Nature Made" any better?
> > > >
> > > > AJ
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 27, 2004, at 21:30:34
In reply to Re: SAM-e!! please respond!!, posted by Flipsactown on April 26, 2004, at 12:43:53
> I will check out the Alternative site
Which is where I'd like this thread redirected to. Thanks,
Bob
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