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Posted by Angelic9144 on August 1, 2003, at 18:01:36
poll time! include dose + length of being on that dose.
45mg for 3 weeks
Posted by craig getty on August 2, 2003, at 17:13:35
In reply to OFFICIAL POLL: What dose of Nardil are you on?, posted by Angelic9144 on August 1, 2003, at 18:01:36
60mg for about 10 weeks. After about 6 weeks I stopped for 2 days, but resumed without noticing a difference.
2 weeks ago (about 8 weeks on nardil) I stopped for three days - and started on a decline. I am just beginning to feel the "happy nardil vibes" that I was feeling before I stopped.
May I suggest 7 other questions you ask in your official poll? Sorry, if you find this annoyingly long or excessive, I think it would be helpful to people. Ignore if you want. :)
1) what are you taking nardil for/med history?
dysthymia - have had 2-3 periods of deeper depression in the past. also experience some social anxiety in large group settings - but these are virtually non-existent in one-on-one settings.
2) how long did it take to kick in? For me it was after 5 weeks on nardil (with the first week being a quick incremental increase from 15 to 30 to 45 to 60mg).
3) taking any other meds in combination? i was on provigil for sleepiness - initially 100mg, then 150 mg. i didn't feel it was working. I stopped it for 2 weeks, and started again yesterday so i'll let you know.
4) side effects? a) contrary to common statements I didn't gain weight, but rather lost 7 pounds in the first 5 weeks. Probably due to a combination of the frequent diarrea I had, cutting out cheese and beer which I had always had a lot of, and finally feeling the impetus to exercise. b) tiredness during the day, but i wake up a few times during the night, and ironcially have no problem getting out of bed in the morning which used to be a problem. c) dizziness. d) slightly lowered sex drive.
5) (when) did the side effects subside; if so do you think you know why or was it just time? a) the diarrea stopped after about 5 weeks. I think my body finally adjusted and I changed my diet - whole grain high fiber cereal for breakfast every morn. I have maintained the weight loss. b)still experience daytime tiredness - however, in the past couple of days I have started 100mg of provigil again after a 2 week break and I have started drinking coffee again (1-2 cups) after not having drunk it since i started nardil. - this seems to help. If necessary I will gradually increase my provigil dose to 200 mg, and if i don't have consistent improvement this time, then I'll try another stim. c) for dizziness, i started taking a vitmamin B complex last week, and it seems to help. d) lower sex drive is consistent - not going to worry about that for now.
6) what meds if any have you tried before nardil?
zoloft; zoloft + prozac; prozac; wellbutrin; wellbutrin + ritalin; wellbutrin + effexor + ritalin; wellbutrin + effexor; wellbutrin + provigil.
7) how stringingently have you followed the dietary restrictions and other guidelines?
I do not eat any cheese - it was my favorite! i do not eat smoked lox - also a favorite. no smoked food at all. nothing pickled, except desserts that have fruit cured in sugar. i eat chocolate from time to time with no problems. I have started coffee again - and I never quit green tea, which has caffeine. I eat a little bit of soy sauce with sushi and have had 1-2 glasses of sake with no problem - i don't have wine. Ironically, I used to love beer but now have no taste for it. Bannanas are fine. Remember - everyone's body is different.
Warning - I have a friend on nardil who used coke and ended up in the hospital.
Good luck with your poll.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 2, 2003, at 17:21:20
In reply to OFFICIAL POLL: What dose of Nardil are you on?, posted by Angelic9144 on August 1, 2003, at 18:01:36
I don't know if this counts, since I don't take it anymore, but this is my Nardil history:
1 week @ 30mg
1 week @ 45mg
1 week @ 60mg
1 week @ 75mg
2 weeks @ 90mg
approximately 6 months @ 120mgDidn't work for me though.
Posted by Ame Sans Vie on August 2, 2003, at 17:45:28
In reply to Re: OFFICIAL POLL: What dose of Nardil are you on?, posted by craig getty on August 2, 2003, at 17:13:35
> 1) what are [were] you taking nardil for/med history?
Social anxiety, panic, agoraphobia, & depression. Other Rx meds I've tried include Prozac, Paxil, Zoloft, Celexa, Lexapro, Luvox, amitriptyline, Limbitrol, Triavil, clomipramine, doxepin, Ludiomil, Serzone, Desyrel, Effexor XR, Wellbutrin, Remeron, Risperdal, Haldol, Zyprexa, Mellaril, Seroquel, Trileptal, Depakote ER, Lamictal, Neurontin, Gabitril, BuSpar Dividose, Atarax, Vistaril, Neuramate, phenobarbital, Amytal, Seconal, Tuinal, Xanax, Xanax XR, Klonopin, Klonopin Wafers, Valium, Ativan, Tranxene, Tranxene-SD, Serax, Centrax, Halcion, Restoril, Rohypnol, Ambien, Xyrem, Inderal, Provigil, Adderall, Adderall XR, Dexedrine, Desoxyn, opium, methadone, and Ultram.
Currently I take Ultram and Xanax XR.
> 2) how long did it take to kick in?Never did kick in... the side effects kicked in after a couple weeks though, lol.
> 3) taking any other meds in combination?
I'd taken Neurontin, Provigil, Inderal, and Klonopin in combination with Nardil at different times.
> 4) side effects?
Weight gain and complete inability to reach orgasm.
> 5) (when) did the side effects subside; if so do you think you know why or was it just time?They never did.
>6) what meds if any have you tried before nardil?
See question 1, lol.
> 7) how stringingently have you followed the dietary restrictions and other guidelines?
At first I was very careful with the food restrictions, but gradually found that I didn't need to follow the diet at all. The only time I had a hypertensive reaction was when I took an Actifed without thinking. Even that was just a moderately bad, dull headache.
Posted by jerrympls on August 5, 2003, at 2:24:47
In reply to Re: OFFICIAL POLL: What dose of Nardil are you on?, posted by craig getty on August 2, 2003, at 17:13:35
I'm on 60mgs right now. If it wasn't so late, I'd answer your other questions.
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