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Posted by wsj on October 12, 2003, at 23:40:10
seems like the possibility of having a sex drive (and ability) would be worth giving parnate a longer trial. maybe when school is on holiday you could give it another try.
wsj
Posted by ace on October 13, 2003, at 1:51:18
In reply to Ace?, posted by wsj on October 12, 2003, at 23:40:10
> seems like the possibility of having a sex drive (and ability) would be worth giving parnate a longer trial. maybe when school is on holiday you could give it another try.
>
> wsjAbsolutely NOT! When Nardil works is in it's 'full-steam ahead' mode, I would rather have NO drive and ability. Nardil is better than sex! Hows that!
Ace.
Posted by wsj on October 13, 2003, at 15:30:20
In reply to Re: Ace? » wsj, posted by ace on October 13, 2003, at 1:51:18
> > seems like the possibility of having a sex drive (and ability) would be worth giving parnate a longer trial. maybe when school is on holiday you could give it another try.
> >
> > wsj
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> Absolutely NOT! When Nardil works is in it's 'full-steam ahead' mode, I would rather have NO drive and ability. Nardil is better than sex! Hows that!
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> Ace.i guess you can still appreciate the beauty of the female form w/o having penetration
wsj
Posted by cybercafe on October 13, 2003, at 19:57:59
In reply to Re: Ace? » wsj, posted by ace on October 13, 2003, at 1:51:18
> > seems like the possibility of having a sex drive (and ability) would be worth giving parnate a longer trial. maybe when school is on holiday you could give it another try.
> >
> > wsj
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> Absolutely NOT! When Nardil works is in it's 'full-steam ahead' mode, I would rather have NO drive and ability. Nardil is better than sex! Hows that!hey dude.... how high a dose did you go up to on parnate?
Posted by ace on October 13, 2003, at 21:29:23
In reply to Re: Ace?, posted by cybercafe on October 13, 2003, at 19:57:59
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> hey dude.... how high a dose did you go up to on parnate?
>Hey Cyber!,
Got up to 60mg. The lerthargy was horrid. And it certainly did induce a depression.
I usually am not too fussed if the drug causes a paradoxical reaction in the first week (ie depression), but I was 2 weeks 4 days into Parnate.
If it shows a paradoxical reaction in the first week or so, this might even be a predictor of a good response.
But, for me, there seemed to be no end in site...I mean did you suffer paradoxical depression with Parnate, or pronounced lethargy. Maybe it's just my brain is fried!Ace.
Posted by cybercafe on October 13, 2003, at 22:22:01
In reply to Re: Ace? » cybercafe, posted by ace on October 13, 2003, at 21:29:23
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> > hey dude.... how high a dose did you go up to on parnate?
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> Hey Cyber!,
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> Got up to 60mg. The lerthargy was horrid. And it certainly did induce a depression.wow that's a pretty high dose..... my doc has treated lots of TRD with 30 mg, but he says it does take a while (like up to 3 months?)
> I usually am not too fussed if the drug causes a paradoxical reaction in the first week (ie depression), but I was 2 weeks 4 days into Parnate.i know... this was your reaction to nardil at first right?
i'm not sure how parnate effected me at first... i THINK it was less sleep + feeling a little tired cuz of the hypotension ...
i had to behave somewhat lethargic cuz i couldn't get up fast, you know what i mean?
i think it felt a little like a stimulant at first and made me feel happy (30 mg)... that effect lasted mainly for about a month, and then i felt depressed again... then during month 3 i started to really make a recovery.......... then i went off the drug :( :( :(
> If it shows a paradoxical reaction in the first week or so, this might even be a predictor of a good response.
> But, for me, there seemed to be no end in site...I mean did you suffer paradoxical depression with Parnate, or pronounced lethargy. Maybe it's just my brain is fried!
no i don't think my depression got worse.... lethargy maybe ... it was more of a wait for the hypotension to go away so i could exercise without passing out ... hahi dunno man...... wow... when i was on parnate i wanted to go out and exercise and take different classes etc i was so motivated... havn't felt that way for about a year now....... but i will be starting parnate after 7 more days of washout .. i can't wait!!
dude the only thing i didn't like about parnate was it made me feel a little aggitated ....
what exactly do you mean by lethargy, like you felt so stimulated you didn't feel the need to go out and do things? or you actually slept more/were too tired to move?
Posted by ace on October 14, 2003, at 22:36:45
In reply to Re: Ace? » cybercafe, posted by cybercafe on October 13, 2003, at 22:22:01
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> > > hey dude.... how high a dose did you go up to on parnate?
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> > Hey Cyber!,
> >
> > Got up to 60mg. The lerthargy was horrid. And it certainly did induce a depression.
>
> wow that's a pretty high dose..... my doc has treated lots of TRD with 30 mg, but he says it does take a while (like up to 3 months?)
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> > I usually am not too fussed if the drug causes a paradoxical reaction in the first week (ie depression), but I was 2 weeks 4 days into Parnate.
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> i know... this was your reaction to nardil at first right?
>-Nardil INITIALLY caused a little bit of anhedonia, and worsening of anxiety. But no where nere to the extent of the depression Parnate caused. The anhedonia and extra anxiety when I started Nardil passed within a week, or a week and a half.
> i'm not sure how parnate effected me at first... i THINK it was less sleep + feeling a little tired cuz of the hypotension ...
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> i had to behave somewhat lethargic cuz i couldn't get up fast, you know what i mean?Sort of!
> i think it felt a little like a stimulant at first and made me feel happy (30 mg)... that effect lasted mainly for about a month, and then i felt depressed again... then during month 3 i started to really make a recovery.......... then i went off the drug :( :( :(
>
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> > If it shows a paradoxical reaction in the first week or so, this might even be a predictor of a good response.
> > But, for me, there seemed to be no end in site...I mean did you suffer paradoxical depression with Parnate, or pronounced lethargy. Maybe it's just my brain is fried!
>
> no i don't think my depression got worse.... lethargy maybe ... it was more of a wait for the hypotension to go away so i could exercise without passing out ... hah
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> i dunno man...... wow... when i was on parnate i wanted to go out and exercise and take different classes etc i was so motivated... havn't felt that way for about a year now....... but i will be starting parnate after 7 more days of washout .. i can't wait!!Great! Hope it works great again dude!
> dude the only thing i didn't like about parnate was it made me feel a little aggitated ....
Did that to me as well. I was very agitated. Almost akathisia.
> what exactly do you mean by lethargy, like you felt so stimulated you didn't feel the need to go out and do things? or you actually slept more/were too tired to move?Like I was unmotivated, very hard to do things. No energy. I would study for 2 minutes and then need a 10 min break! I couldn't concentrate either. I couldn't sleep but I felt very tired in the day. My muscles were weak. There was anhedonia too. It was a bad experience...
Good luck Cyber!
Ace.
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