Psycho-Babble Medication Thread 390953

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This new Nardil is a mess !

Posted by tepiaca on September 15, 2004, at 2:19:38

I still remember the first 2 months of my life with the old nardil . It seemed that everything was gonna get fixed . I had no time to reach the proper dose and then I started taking the new version .
And now after 1 year and 1 month , I cant stop thinking about leave it . Too many side effects
I even suffer from sexual disfunction . I canīt have a constat erection . My sexual desire is gone . I canīt sleep enough . My stomach is a mess . I can pee in front of other people , and alone I spent like 5 minutes to start peeing.
And many more.
Why did they change the formula ??

I have not buyed the medicine in one week . I admit I feel bad , but it is rare how I feel more normal after one week of being off of the Nardil . Maybe my shipment will arrive tomorrow and Im thinking seriously to not buy it and try another MAOI like Parnate.
Iīm desperate because I canīt still get a job . I really need to work , my dad canīt give more money .
But how to find a job without wanting to have one. I have no confidence on myself . I feel useless . In this condition I would not be able to give even the 30% that I know I could give If I were a normal person

This is a heal . I dont want this anymore . I just want this to finish . It would have been better for me to have died in my bathtub 7 years ago when I hung up with me belt

 

Re: This new Nardil is a mess !

Posted by King Vultan on September 15, 2004, at 10:47:23

In reply to This new Nardil is a mess !, posted by tepiaca on September 15, 2004, at 2:19:38

> I still remember the first 2 months of my life with the old nardil . It seemed that everything was gonna get fixed . I had no time to reach the proper dose and then I started taking the new version .
> And now after 1 year and 1 month , I cant stop thinking about leave it . Too many side effects
> I even suffer from sexual disfunction . I canīt have a constat erection . My sexual desire is gone . I canīt sleep enough . My stomach is a mess . I can pee in front of other people , and alone I spent like 5 minutes to start peeing.
> And many more.
> Why did they change the formula ??
>
> I have not buyed the medicine in one week . I admit I feel bad , but it is rare how I feel more normal after one week of being off of the Nardil . Maybe my shipment will arrive tomorrow and Im thinking seriously to not buy it and try another MAOI like Parnate.
> Iīm desperate because I canīt still get a job . I really need to work , my dad canīt give more money .
> But how to find a job without wanting to have one. I have no confidence on myself . I feel useless . In this condition I would not be able to give even the 30% that I know I could give If I were a normal person
>
> This is a heal . I dont want this anymore . I just want this to finish . It would have been better for me to have died in my bathtub 7 years ago when I hung up with me belt


I was on Nardil from March to August and just switched to Parnate. It sounds like I had a better experience on Nardil than you did, but I did suffer from some of the same side effects. I think you would find Parnate better in almost every area you described, as it is a lot more dopaminergic--more activating and motivating, better libido, little if any anticholinergic-type side effects, and I'm finding I am more assertive and self confident on it also. However, I believe my dosage is not quite high enough (30 mg), and I am still experiencing some bouts of depression. I sympathize with your situation, as I am currently having to deal with a few issues of my own with a mindset that is not the greatest. Keep in mind that your perceptions are being colored by your depression; I can testify from very recent experience that things are really not as bad as they might seem.

Todd

 

Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ King Vultan

Posted by tepiaca on September 16, 2004, at 13:25:07

In reply to Re: This new Nardil is a mess !, posted by King Vultan on September 15, 2004, at 10:47:23

thank you todd
Yes my depression is very hard now . Suspending the Nardil suddenly has affected me enourmosly
I have had vivid nigthmares that are very painfull because most of the time I shout and punch the furniture and the wall around my bed.
I hope to start feeling good soon , today I received my Nardil again .
I guess Iīll have to try Parnate , maybe it could help me more than Nardil
Thanks fo your reply
Wish good luck with the Parnate

Tep

 

Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ tepiaca

Posted by King Vultan on September 16, 2004, at 20:46:25

In reply to Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ King Vultan, posted by tepiaca on September 16, 2004, at 13:25:07

> thank you todd
> Yes my depression is very hard now . Suspending the Nardil suddenly has affected me enourmosly
> I have had vivid nigthmares that are very painfull because most of the time I shout and punch the furniture and the wall around my bed.
> I hope to start feeling good soon , today I received my Nardil again .
> I guess Iīll have to try Parnate , maybe it could help me more than Nardil
> Thanks fo your reply
> Wish good luck with the Parnate
>
> Tep


I had some of the same issues with disruptive dreams during my Nardil withdrawal while tapering down from seven pills per day (105 mg) to zero, dropping one pill every three days. I believe this is what they call REM Rebound Syndrome, and I found it to be rather unpleasant. I never have nightmares normally and do recall actually yelling out and punching at the air a few times. Fortunately, it lasted for me less than a week.

Best of luck, whatever you decide.

Todd

 

Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ tepiaca

Posted by ace on September 16, 2004, at 22:46:21

In reply to This new Nardil is a mess !, posted by tepiaca on September 15, 2004, at 2:19:38

. It would have been better for me to have died in my bathtub 7 years ago when I hung up with me belt

Please don't think this way. Tep, try the new Nardil at 90mg for 4-6 weeks. If there is no response I would try to augment the Nardil.

You say Seroquel was good for you. How about combining Seroquel and Nardil.

or these...

Nardil + TCA
Nardil + L-Tryptophan
Nardil + Clonidine
Nardil + PIndolol
Nardil + Remeron (this might work great)]
Nardil + Solian
Nardil + Risperidone


Then if that doesn't work try Parnate.

Please don't give in, you are a good person Tep and u deserve to be HAPPY!!!

Ace

 

Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ ace

Posted by tepiaca on September 18, 2004, at 17:00:49

In reply to Re: This new Nardil is a mess ! ŧ tepiaca, posted by ace on September 16, 2004, at 22:46:21


Thank you for your reply , old friend

> You say Seroquel was good for you. How about combining Seroquel and Nardil.
>
> or these...
>
> Nardil + TCA
> Nardil + L-Tryptophan
> Nardil + Clonidine
> Nardil + PIndolol
> Nardil + Remeron (this might work great)]
> Nardil + Solian
> Nardil + Risperidone
>
>
> Then if that doesn't work try Parnate.


I have asked my doctor about others posible changes in my med . He is very conservative and does not want to add another thing . CBT migth help me he said .
I think he is like this because I have been with him for a short period . The only medicine he prescribed me was Depakote and It didnīt work.
Even though I think he is the best doctor Iīve ever seen and I want to stay with him.

Nardil + Seroquel . Sounds great ! . I know I can convince my pshycian.
Iīve thinking on this combo since I started having insomnia problems . I remember how pleasant were my dreams on Seroquel and my mood and anxiety were a bit better also.
So sad Iīm not ready to buy this 2 expensives medicines. Dad canīt afford it . I need a job ! but who wants to hire a depressive , Social phobic guy . Of course I donīt tell them about my situation , but they notice it at the interviews how shy and unmotivated I am.
Sometimes I would like to live in other country where the medical insurance covers your medicines

>
> Please don't give in, you are a good person Tep and u deserve to be HAPPY!!!
>
> Ace

Thank you for everything Ace !
Iīll keep in touch

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