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Posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
High everyone
My social anxiety is really getting me down at the moment.
I used to have it under control with GHB, but I can no longer obtain it.
Now I take Klonopin as needed.The problem is that although Klonopin takes away the anxiety it leaves me feeling appathetic and with no desire to socialise.
I was wondering what meds, or combination of meds have made people function better socialy.
Has anyone found Nardil Prosocial?Perhapse I need a combination of antidepressent and antianxiety meds?
Posted by Optimist on January 11, 2005, at 22:50:43
In reply to Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
> High everyone
>
> My social anxiety is really getting me down at the moment.
> I used to have it under control with GHB, but I can no longer obtain it.
> Now I take Klonopin as needed.
>
> The problem is that although Klonopin takes away the anxiety it leaves me feeling appathetic and with no desire to socialise.
>
> I was wondering what meds, or combination of meds have made people function better socialy.
> Has anyone found Nardil Prosocial?
>
> Perhapse I need a combination of antidepressent and antianxiety meds?
>
>Supposedly Nardil and Parnate are the best AD's for social anxiety in that order so that's a good place to start. And whatever is good for social anxiety would be prosocial in that regard.
Basically anything that works on GABA or dopamine. Since you're already taking a GABA drug perhaps you're lacking in dopamine.
Some people find stimulants prosocial, like caffeine, adderall, and dexedrine. That may be an option as well. They work on dopamine. I personally find Adderall too anxiety provoking where as caffeine works great. YMMV.
Brian
Posted by lunesta on January 12, 2005, at 8:04:42
In reply to Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
try provigil + klonopin.
Posted by johnnystats on January 12, 2005, at 8:34:22
In reply to Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
> High everyone
>
> My social anxiety is really getting me down at the moment.
> I used to have it under control with GHB, but I can no longer obtain it.
> Now I take Klonopin as needed.
>
The problem is that although Klonopin takes away the anxiety it leaves me feeling appathetic and with no desire to socialise.
> I was wondering what meds, or combination of meds have made people function better socialy.
> Has anyone found Nardil Prosocial?
>
> Perhapse I need a combination of antidepressent and antianxiety meds?
>
> I think that nardil and a benzo are the best combination for social anxiety. When i'm on nardil i feel like a different person-no depression/lonliness, but i still felt anxious.When i combined nardil with klonopin i felt like i was in a daze and didn't care about socializing with anyone. Currently I'm taking nardil with xanax xr and this combo seems to work much better for me...although most people who post here will tell you to try Klonopin first. Other meds you may want to ask your pdoc about are the antipsychotics and the anticonvulsants. Antipsychotics stop the constant stream of anxious thoughts in your head, while anticonvulsants seem to augment antidepressants very well. Geodon and lamictal are two meds you may want to ask about. Keep experimenting and sooner or later you'll find the right combo.
Posted by TheOutsider on January 12, 2005, at 10:39:40
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by johnnystats on January 12, 2005, at 8:34:22
Thanks for the suggestions everyone
Unfortunatly stimulents alone don't help my SA,
Caffein makes it worse, so does Provigil, Dexedrine was somewhat prosocial in combination with Clomipramine, oddly enough neither were effective on their own.
I tried combining Klonopin with Provigil, but I didn't find it very helpful, although it seems to work for lots of others :(
I would like to try Xanax but its all but impossible to get it prescribed here, especially long term.
I'm pinning my hopes (such as they are) on either Nardil or Pregabalin!
Posted by ace on January 12, 2005, at 22:48:38
In reply to Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
Pro-social drugs
1. Nardil - EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE
2. Xanax - very very effect
3. Tramadol- very effective
4. Amisulpride (lower dose range)- very effective
5. Zyprexa- worth a try
6. Stelazine -- worth a try
7. Psychotherapy (i.e CBT etc) -- very ineffective (in my opinion)
Posted by TheOutsider on January 13, 2005, at 5:17:48
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? » TheOutsider, posted by ace on January 12, 2005, at 22:48:38
> Pro-social drugs
>
> 1. Nardil - EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE
> 2. Xanax - very very effect
> 3. Tramadol- very effective
> 4. Amisulpride (lower dose range)- very effective
> 5. Zyprexa- worth a try
> 6. Stelazine -- worth a try
> 7. Psychotherapy (i.e CBT etc) -- very ineffective (in my opinion)Annoyingly neither Tramadol or Amisulpride helped me!
I think GABA disfunction must be involved with my SA some how, because only GABA drugs seem to help........
Posted by banga on January 13, 2005, at 13:45:02
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? » TheOutsider, posted by TheOutsider on January 13, 2005, at 5:17:48
Can anyone speculate what it is about Zyprexa that makes it prosocial? As opposed to, say, Geodon ?
Posted by johnnystats on January 14, 2005, at 7:14:36
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? Zyprexa?, posted by banga on January 13, 2005, at 13:45:02
> Can anyone speculate what it is about Zyprexa that makes it prosocial? As opposed to, say, Geodon ?
I can't speculate on the specifics of why the two meds are different, but my pdoc told me Zyprexa calms down the emotional centers of the brain very quickly and effectively, while Geodon is more effective at controlling the antisocial thoughts that go through your head.
Posted by djmmm on January 14, 2005, at 14:13:16
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? » TheOutsider, posted by TheOutsider on January 13, 2005, at 5:17:48
> > Pro-social drugs
> >
> > 1. Nardil - EXTREMELY EFFECTIVE
> > 2. Xanax - very very effect
> > 3. Tramadol- very effective
> > 4. Amisulpride (lower dose range)- very effective
> > 5. Zyprexa- worth a try
> > 6. Stelazine -- worth a try
> > 7. Psychotherapy (i.e CBT etc) -- very ineffective (in my opinion)
>
> Annoyingly neither Tramadol or Amisulpride helped me!
> I think GABA disfunction must be involved with my SA some how, because only GABA drugs seem to help........
>I found that Nardil was the most pro-social med I have taken...
I have also found that the combination of Neurontin and Klonopin had a strong pro-social effect.
Sadly, moderate amounts of alcohol works the best for me...but only for short term "confidence"
Now, I take parnate, and .5mg of klonopin, the effect is very similar to Nardil, but with far fewer side-effects.
Posted by borderliner on January 15, 2005, at 23:41:28
In reply to Any Pro-Social Meds?, posted by TheOutsider on January 11, 2005, at 16:49:56
Reboxetine helped me with motivation, energy and social anxiety. I dont recommend use of ths drug if u consider yourself unstable. Efexor is an anti depressant and anti anxiety medication.
goodluck
Posted by Sebastian on January 16, 2005, at 17:29:52
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? Zyprexa?, posted by banga on January 13, 2005, at 13:45:02
I don't know. Geodon has been much more prosocial than zyprexa for me.
Posted by BradD on January 18, 2005, at 12:20:16
In reply to Re: Any Pro-Social Meds? » TheOutsider, posted by ace on January 12, 2005, at 22:48:38
Pro-social drugs
> 1. Nardil - EXTREMELY EFFECTIVEHaven't tried it.
> 2. Xanax - very very effect
I second that.
> 3. Tramadol- very effective
Tramadol is the most pro-social drug I've ever used except combo of Adderall + GHB.
> 4. Amisulpride (lower dose range)- very effective
Yes, but it pooped out on me after 2/3 months
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