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Posted by tgo on December 10, 2007, at 18:27:39
Anyone know if there is an effective way to counteract weight gain on Nardil??? I have heard of the combination of nardil and dexedrine, but have also read of adverse reactions to some stimulants while on nardil. Any experiences??
Also, what would be a good energizing antidepressant for social anxiety - SSRI or related without the dreaded weight gain??? Paxil and celexa are out due to massive weight gain and sedation. Zoloft is out due to massive weight gain. Lexapro seemed to cause anxiety, though I only tried it a couple days. Prozac though weight neutral doesn't seem to do anything for me. Anyone have success or experiences with cymbalta, effexor, or others???
What is your current social anxiety med regiment that works for you??
I am currently on Geodon for moodiness, prozac, klonopin, and adderall.
Thanks!
Posted by Maxime on December 10, 2007, at 19:12:26
In reply to Is there a way to control weight gain on Nardil???, posted by tgo on December 10, 2007, at 18:27:39
The Adderall probably isn't helping your mood. I was on it for a couple of years and just came off it .. mood improved.
Zoloft doesn't cause weight gain.
I took Adderall, Dexedrine and Ritalin with Nardil (seperately) and had no ill effects.
Maxime
> Anyone know if there is an effective way to counteract weight gain on Nardil??? I have heard of the combination of nardil and dexedrine, but have also read of adverse reactions to some stimulants while on nardil. Any experiences??
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> Also, what would be a good energizing antidepressant for social anxiety - SSRI or related without the dreaded weight gain??? Paxil and celexa are out due to massive weight gain and sedation. Zoloft is out due to massive weight gain. Lexapro seemed to cause anxiety, though I only tried it a couple days. Prozac though weight neutral doesn't seem to do anything for me. Anyone have success or experiences with cymbalta, effexor, or others???
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> What is your current social anxiety med regiment that works for you??
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> I am currently on Geodon for moodiness, prozac, klonopin, and adderall.
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> Thanks!
Posted by Phillipa on December 10, 2007, at 23:26:31
In reply to Re: Is there a way to control weight gain on Nardil??? » tgo, posted by Maxime on December 10, 2007, at 19:12:26
I didn't gain wt on zoloft either. Phillipa
Posted by jedi on December 12, 2007, at 21:51:26
In reply to Is there a way to control weight gain on Nardil???, posted by tgo on December 10, 2007, at 18:27:39
Hi,
The only way I was able to lose weight on Nardil was about 1.5 hours per day of aerobic training plus weight training. At the time I was also on a fairly low carb diet, not bread, no chips, lots of vegetables, and very few sweets. I lost about 75 lbs on this routine. Very hard to maintain though. I imagine you could maintain weight with a half hour of intense aerobics and some light weight training.Stimulants are a short term solution.
Bupropion is one of the more energizing antidepressants. However, it is not noted for decreasing social anxiety. Tranylcypromine (Parnate) may help with this, but it does not affect GABA and this seems to be the neurotransmitter most involved with social anxiety. Nardil, Marplan and clonazepam all affect GABA.
When you start out on bupropion you have to be very careful with anger management. Almost everyone I've talked to that started on bupropion had an anger or rage reaction. This includes myself and I'm about as mellow as it gets.
IMHO the best meds for social anxiety is Nardil augmented with clonazepam. Some people that can't even leave the house can hold normal conversations while on this combination.
I had a fairly long trial with venlafaxine(Effexor). It worked somewhat on my depression but left me amotivational, similar to the SSRIs.
It also raised my borderline high blood pressure to the point where it was going to have to be medicated. Nardil, on the other hand, lowered my blood preesure between 10 and 20 points. This eliminated the need for a beta blocker or the like.Good Luck,
Jedi
> Anyone know if there is an effective way to counteract weight gain on Nardil??? I have heard of the combination of nardil and dexedrine, but have also read of adverse reactions to some stimulants while on nardil. Any experiences??
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> Also, what would be a good energizing antidepressant for social anxiety - SSRI or related without the dreaded weight gain??? Paxil and celexa are out due to massive weight gain and sedation. Zoloft is out due to massive weight gain. Lexapro seemed to cause anxiety, though I only tried it a couple days. Prozac though weight neutral doesn't seem to do anything for me. Anyone have success or experiences with cymbalta, effexor, or others???
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> What is your current social anxiety med regiment that works for you??
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> I am currently on Geodon for moodiness, prozac, klonopin, and adderall.
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> Thanks!
Posted by Justherself54 on December 16, 2007, at 10:54:42
In reply to Re: Is there a way to control weight gain on Nardil??? » tgo, posted by jedi on December 12, 2007, at 21:51:26
I've gained 6 pounds so far on Nardil..I have absolutely no desire for food during the day..it's at night that I go crazy, so I've decided not to have any sweets (that includes any jams or honey, cause I can go crazy with a box of crackers and a jar of jam). I'm carrying an extra 80 pounds on me thanks to zoloft and lexapro..I just can't bear to gain anymore so I'm going to give this a try..
I have so much energy on Nardil. I've gotten stuff done around here that has sat for 2 years.If if I can get myself into a routine of a long daily walk, I just may start losing (mind you, how wants to walk outside on the prairies when the wind chill is -35)..but am planning to go to a friend's place who has a treadmill when it's too cold as I would prefer not to lose my external body parts due to windchill (geeze, even my sense of humour is getting better on Nardil)
Posted by LizinManhattan on December 19, 2007, at 19:48:34
In reply to Is there a way to control weight gain on Nardil???, posted by tgo on December 10, 2007, at 18:27:39
I also gained weight on Nardil. That, combined with sleep issues, made my doctor switch me to Parnate and it helped.
Liz> Anyone know if there is an effective way to counteract weight gain on Nardil??? I have heard of the combination of nardil and dexedrine, but have also read of adverse reactions to some stimulants while on nardil. Any experiences??
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> Also, what would be a good energizing antidepressant for social anxiety - SSRI or related without the dreaded weight gain??? Paxil and celexa are out due to massive weight gain and sedation. Zoloft is out due to massive weight gain. Lexapro seemed to cause anxiety, though I only tried it a couple days. Prozac though weight neutral doesn't seem to do anything for me. Anyone have success or experiences with cymbalta, effexor, or others???
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> What is your current social anxiety med regiment that works for you??
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> I am currently on Geodon for moodiness, prozac, klonopin, and adderall.
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> Thanks!
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