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Posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
Okay this has been going on for a long time this being tired on benzos. Well I upped the luvox to 75mg finally and pdoc is glad. But the kicker is that I've lowered the valium from initially 20mg at night to total 10mg and .5 of xanax. Was searching internet late last night and saw I could have seizures and luvox and valium, and xanax shouldn't be taken at all as luvox potentiates effects of benzos. And I freaked myself out. How much does the luvox potentiate? And will I die I don't want to on the lower doses of valium as I exhausted but still to anxious to be alone even let husband walk outside the house without me. I don't know what to do. Yes the pdoc has prescribed all for me and thought the potentiation would relieve anxiety and help fears and dosen't. So What to do? Know valium has 200 hour life. So will I have seizures and why tired? I'm drinking two bottles of green tea and trying to get out of course with husband. Sometimes I want to do what I did when young and that was just stop the benzos. Wasn't on an ad then but had taken miltown 400mg and cold turkeyed it with no side effects at all. Am I that wierd? Please Help me figure this out. And the pdocs here no openings now shortage cause of the surge of new people in Charlotte. Phillipa wacko case.
Posted by Justherself54 on March 17, 2009, at 22:49:07
In reply to What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
Can you post the article where you read that..I know how hard it had to be for you to up the luvox but good for you girl!!!..hopefully someone with more experience with benzos can help to calm your fears..
Posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 23:48:35
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Justherself54 on March 17, 2009, at 22:49:07
Not just one article just put benzo withdrawal in search engine then do one with luvox. Scarey stuff!!!! Love Phillipa
Posted by manic666 on March 18, 2009, at 6:39:42
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally » Justherself54, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 23:48:35
what you on about baby you no i take 4 loz thats the same as 35mg valium stop reading everything. why no stay on your valium dose your on until luvox kicks in .
Posted by Abby Cunningham on March 18, 2009, at 8:05:18
In reply to What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
Jan, how fast did you taper down the valium from 20mg to 10mg? That alone can cause you to freak out. when you taper a benzo, the rule of thumb is take no more than 10% away, gradually reducing. Did you do this all at once? Go back up and start tapering very gradually. My experience.
Posted by yxibow on March 18, 2009, at 8:13:52
In reply to What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
> Okay this has been going on for a long time this being tired on benzos. Well I upped the luvox to 75mg finally and pdoc is glad. But the kicker is that I've lowered the valium from initially 20mg at night to total 10mg and .5 of xanax. Was searching internet late last night and saw I could have seizures and luvox and valium, and xanax shouldn't be taken at all as luvox potentiates effects of benzos. And I freaked myself out. How much does the luvox potentiate? And will I die I don't want to on the lower doses of valium as I exhausted but still to anxious to be alone even let husband walk outside the house without me. I don't know what to do. Yes the pdoc has prescribed all for me and thought the potentiation would relieve anxiety and help fears and dosen't. So What to do? Know valium has 200 hour life. So will I have seizures and why tired? I'm drinking two bottles of green tea and trying to get out of course with husband. Sometimes I want to do what I did when young and that was just stop the benzos. Wasn't on an ad then but had taken miltown 400mg and cold turkeyed it with no side effects at all. Am I that wierd? Please Help me figure this out. And the pdocs here no openings now shortage cause of the surge of new people in Charlotte. Phillipa wacko case.
I took Luvox and Valium together and the CYP 3A4 risks aren't necessarily that pronounced.If you look hard enough for something on the net you'll find every possible side effect.
Luvox and most SSRIs are not known for high seizure potential and being on the benzodiazepines would be protective anyhow. Wellbutrin is another story.
Valium does not have a 200 hour half life typically.... maybe its long term plasma level could reach that but its half life is about 24+ hours.
Yes, its true, Xanax and Valium go through 3A4, but the amounts you're talking about are in the noise level. I can tell you I was on quite more than that.
Let the agents do their work -- worrying about them isn't going to help them do any better.
-- Jay
Posted by SLS on March 18, 2009, at 8:33:18
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on March 18, 2009, at 8:13:52
> Let the agents do their work -- worrying about them isn't going to help them do any better.
Unless I encounter a major adverse event, I just start a new drug and forget about it. I know that it is going to take weeks to work. Even a dosage adjustment can take 3 weeks to show a difference. Like you said, obsessing about the drug won't make it work any better - it might even make it work less well, as the stress and anxiety are working against the drug response.
Phillipa,
Einstein's definition of insanity:
Doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
- Scott
Posted by myco on March 18, 2009, at 9:35:13
In reply to What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
Oh Jan...you are ok. I know you are "thinking" and "hypothesizing" yourself into panic here. Let me inject some logic into this as I see it as the best treatment for this situation....
Keep in mind you have been taking luvox and valium and xanax for a very very long time, you are totally used to them. There is no need to consider that they might hurt you really. You have had enough experience experience already to show you they work safe in your body. Just continue doing what you were doing under the guidance of your pdoc and you will be fine...if he/she says upping the luvox is ok then let it be...I know anxiety comes along with dose changes: "omg is it gonna work, i dont know etc....." then you just snowball into worrying about it. I think this combo of meds will not hurt you. *hugs* we will be here with you the whole way
> Okay this has been going on for a long time this being tired on benzos. Well I upped the luvox to 75mg finally and pdoc is glad. But the kicker is that I've lowered the valium from initially 20mg at night to total 10mg and .5 of xanax. Was searching internet late last night and saw I could have seizures and luvox and valium, and xanax shouldn't be taken at all as luvox potentiates effects of benzos. And I freaked myself out. How much does the luvox potentiate? And will I die I don't want to on the lower doses of valium as I exhausted but still to anxious to be alone even let husband walk outside the house without me. I don't know what to do. Yes the pdoc has prescribed all for me and thought the potentiation would relieve anxiety and help fears and dosen't. So What to do? Know valium has 200 hour life. So will I have seizures and why tired? I'm drinking two bottles of green tea and trying to get out of course with husband. Sometimes I want to do what I did when young and that was just stop the benzos. Wasn't on an ad then but had taken miltown 400mg and cold turkeyed it with no side effects at all. Am I that wierd? Please Help me figure this out. And the pdocs here no openings now shortage cause of the surge of new people in Charlotte. Phillipa wacko case.
Posted by Larry Hoover on March 18, 2009, at 10:36:54
In reply to What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 17, 2009, at 21:50:19
I know I've discussed this issue with you here on more than one prior occasion. The interaction is modest, and if it was going to cause you problems, it would have done so already. The fact that you haven't had any problems is all you need to consider.
Please, put it out of your mind. It is a non-issue for you.
Lar
Posted by Phillipa on March 18, 2009, at 12:26:05
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally » Phillipa, posted by Larry Hoover on March 18, 2009, at 10:36:54
So much pressure is being put on me to get better now and do the things like I used to do. It hurts when someone says they wouldn't have married you if they knew you were going to get sick. Shoot between lymes, thyroid and family problems. It's like do it now. thanks though so I won't die? See I figure my Mother died at 48 from cortisone when first out and I've outlived her. I remember her saying well you still need me so I can't die yet. Then when I and my sister could care for self she died. And my kids can so no one needs me I'm a burden. Phillipa/Jan People wonder why I go to babble this is why you guys care. And I care for each and every one of you. You're my family.
Posted by desolationrower on March 19, 2009, at 1:08:07
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally, posted by Phillipa on March 18, 2009, at 12:26:05
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Posted by metric on March 19, 2009, at 12:53:46
In reply to Re: What To Do Seriously Freaked Myself Out Totally » Phillipa, posted by yxibow on March 18, 2009, at 8:13:52
> Valium does not have a 200 hour half life typically.... maybe its long term plasma level could reach that but its half life is about 24+ hours.
>Its active metabolite (nordiazepam) can sometimes exceed 200 hours in the elderly, who tend to metabolize benzodiazepines slowly (they are also more sensitive to their effects).
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