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Posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 23:27:44
I can't sleep and I feel very alone and I am scared.Scared of what is, and what may be.I don't want to live my life this way. I was really hoping I would feel better (like MUCH better) from the job, but I don't. I really like the job, but I am still really unhappy and depressed. Am I ever going to feel better? And how do I get rid of this weight?
I know I am depressed, but I was hoping that someone, somewhere might be able to help me. And that sense of FEAR that I have when it is so quiet at night. We have a dog and I know she would protect us, but I have always felt that someone or something is lurking in the dark right behind me.
Posted by Phillipa on October 11, 2010, at 0:34:10
In reply to What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 23:27:44
Do you work tomorrow? If so bet you feel better once you are at work it's only two weeks. I don't know as I have fear at bed and when wake up. I guess if could afford it and there was one around psychotherapy? I really don't know. Just know it's not in a pill. Phillipa
Posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 1:04:11
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION » Maxime, posted by Phillipa on October 11, 2010, at 0:34:10
> Do you work tomorrow? If so bet you feel better once you are at work it's only two weeks. I don't know as I have fear at bed and when wake up. I guess if could afford it and there was one around psychotherapy? I really don't know. Just know it's not in a pill. Phillipa
Hi Phillipa, I have tomorrow off work because it's our Thanksgiving. Funny, it feels like I have been working for much longer than I have. I wonder why that is?
I don't know if I am scared that someone will pop out at me at night or if SOMETHING will do it. I have PTSD but I have never written about here. And it is not something I plan to write about either.
Like you, I need a really good therapist that I can afford. I know that having a therapist would help me very much in the longterm. I have looked into a getting a therapist and I have found none that are affordable.
It's now 2 am and I am still really awake but I spent most of the day sleeping which is unlike me, but I have been so sick that all I could do was sleep. Tomorrow, well today, I don't have much planned because I have a lot of cleaning to do.
Maxie
Posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 8:58:54
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 1:04:11
I stayed awake until there was a bit of light outside and then I feel asleep. Now it is 10 am and I really should shower etc, but I think I am going to hop into bed for a bit. I don't have the fear during the day, just at night.
Posted by twinleaf on October 11, 2010, at 10:27:42
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION » Maxime, posted by Maxime on October 11, 2010, at 8:58:54
Because my own experience has been so good, I'm always hoping that people will opt for psychoanalytic psychotherapy. In Montreal, there is a psychoanalytic institute. You should be able to get very good long-term therapy by a candidate in training; they are already full-fledged therapists. They charge very little - a few dollars only, if need be. I had a combination of fear, anxiety and depression, and all of them have disappeared. I did have TMS too, so don'y know how much each of the two things contributed to my feeling so much better. But I think it was the therapy!
And Philippa, you know how effective therapy can be. Why aren't you having it? There are lots of well-trained therapists in your state
Posted by EERR11CC on October 11, 2010, at 12:45:33
In reply to What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 23:27:44
Maxime,
I empathize. I feel very afraid at times too. Painfully afraid. It is inexplicable. My depression and anxiety started after a terrifying experience, though I am not sure what that means.
Lyrica at high doses helps, but I can only take it every third day of it loses its potency. GHB completely eliminates fear, it can only be used once a day effectively, and that only lasts for about one hour. It is amazing though to feel that paralyzing fear just break apart under its influence.
Posted by bleauberry on October 12, 2010, at 5:21:11
In reply to What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 23:27:44
I do not think your problems are neurotransmitter issues. Because if they were, you would have experienced much better performance on meds that target them.
Unexplained fear is the body's way of being unable to deal with stress. Probably weak adrenals. If so, thyroid automatically downregulates itself to stay in sync with adrenals....and maybe thus the overweight problems from hypothyroid. Tests are useless...you can be firmly in the middle of the normal range and still by hypothyroid. Only a trial of T3 would say for sure. But without doing something for the adrenals, that would be problematic also.
Things to work with:
1. No more neurotransmitter trial stuff...it's been a dead end road and is likely to continue that way. It's something else.
2. Siberian Ginseng (eleuthero) and Astragulus combo.
3. Small amounts of maca root powder
4. Adrenal cortex extractAll of the above are slow acting...1 to 6 months.
Faster intervention:
1. Hydrocortisone 1mg-5mg per day.
2. T3Must try:
1. Doxycycline. This will rule in or rule out a bunch of stuff.No brainer staple:
1. LDN
Posted by Maxime on October 12, 2010, at 20:44:56
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by bleauberry on October 12, 2010, at 5:21:11
Thank you for your input. Actually I do have Hashimoto's and I take a combination of Synthroid and Cytomel. My endo keeps my TSH on the hyper side because that is when I feel the best.
I the fear I feel would probably be best addressed with psycho therapy which I cannot afford. Although and I am going to read your post a few more times and see what I might try.
I am really grateful for the time you take to type out extensive responses. You always cover all ends.Thank you.
Posted by Jay_Clockwork_Angels on October 13, 2010, at 13:50:39
In reply to What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by Maxime on October 10, 2010, at 23:27:44
> I can't sleep and I feel very alone and I am scared.Scared of what is, and what may be.I don't want to live my life this way. I was really hoping I would feel better (like MUCH better) from the job, but I don't. I really like the job, but I am still really unhappy and depressed. Am I ever going to feel better? And how do I get rid of this weight?
>
> I know I am depressed, but I was hoping that someone, somewhere might be able to help me. And that sense of FEAR that I have when it is so quiet at night. We have a dog and I know she would protect us, but I have always felt that someone or something is lurking in the dark right behind me.
>Maxime,
I feel very deeply for your pain. The way you describe it, it's like the same kind of fear and such I have quite often. It is the worst kind, and it feels like your life is in jeopardy. I have also had a major problem with fear of being alone, of losing my family. It has come to the point where I almost *despise* change, and wish everyday would just be a nice little quiet version of the previous. Nobody gets old or gets sick. I am *very* serious too, not trying to trivialize it.
I wish I had some better answers, especially med wise. I am not sure of what meds you are on. I know that 'talk therapy' is likely the last thing you want to hear about, but possibly along with med changes, having *someone* to talk to, and just hear you out, is helpful. I also am not sure if this is the best suggestion in your case, but in emergencies, I have used occasional high doses of melatonin (even during the day) to stabilize me emotionally. It is a bit of a crude treatment, but one I have used for over 20 years. Just be careful and use it once-in-a-while, because if you constantly use it, melatonin can make you very depressed.
Best wishes...and if you have a chance, could you put out your med list?
Jay
Posted by Maxime on October 13, 2010, at 22:13:14
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION » Maxime, posted by Jay_Clockwork_Angels on October 13, 2010, at 13:50:39
Thank your kind and helpful post. I can tell that you understand how I feel.
My psych Meds are:
Parnate 100 mg
Nortriptaline: 75 mg
Trileptal 600 mg ( I am bipolar type two)
Aderrall XR 30 mg
Clonazepam .5 mgI am also on two meds for thyroid.
Posted by Maxime on October 14, 2010, at 22:51:15
In reply to Re: What can I take for FEAR and DEPRESSION, posted by EERR11CC on October 11, 2010, at 12:45:33
> Maxime,
>
> I empathize. I feel very afraid at times too. Painfully afraid. It is inexplicable. My depression and anxiety started after a terrifying experience, though I am not sure what that means.
> Lyrica at high doses helps, but I can only take it every third day of it loses its potency. GHB completely eliminates fear, it can only be used once a day effectively, and that only lasts for about one hour. It is amazing though to feel that paralyzing fear just break apart under its influence.Thank you. The fear stops me from doing things which is bad. It would be okay if I had the fear and it wasn't having an effect on my daily life but it does. I think I need a therapist more than another pill to take. How do you control yours?
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