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Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 10:58:37
In reply to my own opinion » SandraDee, posted by jane d on July 22, 2002, at 10:36:42
Jane,
I am ipressed with your answer to "nobody actually said that....
You see, the referrence to Beelzebub, to me, goes much farther than what is actually said, like what your answer says.
Now I will post ,if you request, what it says beyond what it says, if you ask me to do so. And at the same time, I wil make the disclaimer that Kiddo may not have meant what I will say at your request.
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 11:09:57
In reply to Re: Biblical reference » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 10:55:55
Dinah,
I have forgiven Kiddo. Could you clarify what you meant by ...forgivness needed here...?
If you clarify that , then I will be better able to understand your post and be able to discuss with you better .
Thanks,
Lou
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 11:13:05
In reply to my own opinion » SandraDee, posted by jane d on July 22, 2002, at 10:36:42
There are Christians that don't preach hellfire all the time. I don't necessarily want that either. I also don't know about who's post you were referring to when mentioning that we were getting close to hearing that speech.
But if you're going to have a faith board and think it's going to be simple, it's not.
When the subject of the faith board came up; I thought to myself, as long as I don't have to moderate it.
We're going to need some guidelines before we all get blocked. On other boards, it's clear what incivility is. Religion is a whole different matter.
Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 11:28:28
In reply to Lou's response o Dinah's post, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 11:09:57
I'm sorry Lou, but I really must get to work. Perhaps I missed the forgiveness and loving-kindness towards Kiddo in your prior posts. I will review them later...
In general, I just wish for a gentler tone from all. But again, that is not a request to you or anyone else. Just a wish, a wistful dream...
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 11:51:41
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post » Lou Pilder, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 11:28:28
Dinah,
I beleive that if you could clarify to me what you think forgivness entails for me to understand your posts to me. If you could do that, then I will have a better undestanding of the post from you to me that I am responding to and I could be better abled to discuss with you .
Thanks,
Lou
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 12:11:51
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 11:51:41
I'm guessing here but it seems she's asking if you had forgiven kiddo in words or just in your heart?
I didn't know kiddo needed forgiveness.
Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 12:12:01
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 11:51:41
Lou, It is unkind of you to tease me away from duties with such a profound question. I really MUST get my work done.
But since you engaged my interest, I must agree that definitions of forgiveness and loving kindness probably differ among different people. How fascinating an insight. I'm not sure it belongs on the Admin board but...
Tell you what. I will think while I do the work I really MUST do about what I consider the definition of forgiveness and loving-kindness to be. And in order for me to look over your posts to Kiddo, I guess I really need to know what your definition of the two concepts are. And since I'm so busy right now, and since there are sooo many posts, it would be a huge kindness to me if you would post links to the posts where you exhibit forgiveness and loving-kindness in this exchange. Of course, you are under no obligation to do so, just as I was under no obligation to do the archive search you requested that I do. It would just speed up the process quite a bit. It could take me days to come to an understanding of how our definitions differ and search through the posts. And I really just don't have days right now. I'll certainly work on it during my bouts of insomnia though.
Thank you for the profound insight. But please, I'm going to get in trouble if I don't do some work.
Posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 12:16:48
In reply to Re: Biblical reference » Dinah, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 10:52:05
> Dinah,
> The issue in question is that Kiddo did not post biblical citation with her post, but in another post later.
> Lou
Lou-This isn't the issue *at all*. Dr. Bob said nothing to me on the board or elsewhere about this topic.
Kiddo
Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 12:20:26
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post » Lou Pilder, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 12:11:51
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> I didn't know kiddo needed forgiveness.
Oh dear Phil. I hope that I didn't imply that I thought Kiddo had done something concrete to need forgiveness. I certainly didn't mean to.But when someone is hurt by what someone said, that is their feeling. It doesn't matter if another person would be hurt by the same thing. Feelings aren't facts. So when Lou says that he has forgiven Kiddo, it is not a reflection on Kiddo at all, but a statement of his own internal state.
I've never quite understood when people become offended when someone forgives them, even if they think they did nothing wrong. It means that harmony has been restored in the relationship, in the heart of the person who was hurt, and what harm could there be in that?Again, I meant no offense to anyone.
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 12:27:36
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 12:20:26
Dinah, That wasn't 'aimed' at anyone. I didn't realize kiddo had done anything to be forgiven for.
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 12:29:19
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 12:20:26
Friends,
I was married previously and my then wife participated in suspicious behavoior that indicated , to me, that adultery was commited. There was a divorse, and someone asked me if I had forgiven her. My answer was that I had forgiven her, but I did not have to stay married to her to forgive her.
Lou
Posted by Dinah on July 22, 2002, at 12:43:21
In reply to Re: Lou's response o Dinah's post, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 12:27:36
I am just walking on eggshells right now, Phil. I didn't mean anything in particular by my post other than trying to not add to the conflagration, while also trying to be of some help. A very fine line to walk, and it's making me a bit edgy.
Pdoc appt today, maybe a useful med change. And maybe a new job too, if I don't get to work. :)
Posted by SandraDee on July 22, 2002, at 15:25:13
In reply to my own opinion » SandraDee, posted by jane d on July 22, 2002, at 10:36:42
Not that I have or would ever say my road is the only road. But I do believe in the Bible, whole-heartedly. That doesn't mean I understand all of it, just means I believe it all to be true, by faith. I have gay friends and I have alcoholic friends. I would never tell either of them they are "SINNERS AND GOING TO HELL", although I do pray for them. God is AMAZING. (okay so this might have been better on faith board) I would never have told Lou he is going to hell because he is of Jewish beliefs. I'm not a preacher type and I don't like being center stage. In fact, it takes all I can to post what I do post. I just don't appreciate that he is allowed to preach his ROAD, but when the bible (well, other parts of the bible - since Lou is also quoting Bible verses, whether he realizes it or not) is quoted it's *sometimes* flagged as wrong. If that's the way it is many other things should have been flagged, or Christian Bible quotes should have not been flagged. :) Hope that helps give ya an idea of who I am, can't speak for the others. Like Dinah says, (paraphrasing) who's to say what God can/will do?.
Posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 15:29:11
In reply to Thanks Jane » jane d, posted by SandraDee on July 22, 2002, at 15:25:13
Posted by SandraDee on July 22, 2002, at 16:07:01
In reply to Go to the Faith Board with me? (nm) » SandraDee, posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 15:29:11
Posted by ctrlaltndel on July 22, 2002, at 17:59:29
In reply to Go to the Faith Board with me? (nm) » SandraDee, posted by kiddo on July 22, 2002, at 15:29:11
: )
Reminds me of the female species need to travel to the ladies~room together - an occurance usually only found in bars n clubs..
Yes I'm female , no this is not administrative and I go to ladies~rooms alone
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 19:02:01
In reply to Lou's response to Phil's post » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 8:23:44
Lou has also tried to recruit off of this site.
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Lou, What was the recruiting about? Were you going to fly people to Ohio?
I'm assuming it was to help them and yourself as you mentioned to Mitch.
I don't share in any of your beliefs and seeing signs of recruiting struck me as unusual.
Lastly, then I'll go somewhere else, will you finish answering bella in regards to your sales techniques. You sounded like you could be of help to her and she's struggling.Phil
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:19:23
In reply to Re: Lou's partial response to Phil's post » Lou Pilder, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 19:02:01
Phil,
I remember a poster here that was close to taking their own life and I was discussing something with her/him and I did offer the poster to come to my mansion and stay for a while as a last resort to carrying out their plan to end their life.
Over 30 yeas ago, I rented a large house in Cincinnati and took in those that were desparate and at the end of their road. Many people walked the Road to the Crown of Life when the stayed with me and now they have abundant lives.
I now have many mansions of my own and offered that poster the same thing that I did 30 years ago. I guess that is what you were referring to about recruiting?
Lou
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:31:08
In reply to Re: Lou's partial response to Phil's post » Lou Pilder, posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 19:02:01
Phil,
For the last week you have been reading about the posts that I am answering. And some of them are from you, also.
Now I was just getting started with what you asked about sales when I had to respond to other posts because I thought that it was more important for me to do so. I have evry intention of answering any and all questions by anyone here and at this time, I am spread to thin to answer the sales thread. However, I think that the thread that I am involved in on the admin. board is reaching the end . Could we wait untill that thread ends to go back to the sales thread. I think that you are genuinally interested and I would be delighted to continue it.
Thanks,
Lou
Posted by Phil on July 22, 2002, at 20:53:32
In reply to Lou's response to Phil's post-part 2, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:31:08
I can say one thing for you, Lou, they broke the mold after they made your ass.
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:01:31
In reply to Lou's response to Phil's post » Phil, posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 20:19:23
why mansions, lou? just curious. wouldn't it help people more to live simply and donate your money and time to altrusitic charities? this is a straightforward question, not meant to be critical at all. you could hire others to spread your story as well...
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:08:08
In reply to mansions..., posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:01:31
Krazy Kat,
I rent the mansions to people that others will not rent to. They have large families , or are hanicapped or bankrupt or displaced. Some of the people sell their houses that are next to mine when some people move in.
Lou
Posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:13:05
In reply to Re: mansions... » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:08:08
and, again just curious, do these people follow your guidelines to get to the Crown?
Posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:20:31
In reply to do you live in a mansion? » Lou Pilder, posted by krazy kat on July 22, 2002, at 21:13:05
KK,
Right now I live in a mansion and have 5 emty rooms. They did follow the guidlines. Some are professors, some are attorneys, some are teachers, some are farmers, etc.
Lou
Posted by oracle on July 22, 2002, at 22:02:36
In reply to Re: do you live in a mansion? » krazy kat , posted by Lou Pilder on July 22, 2002, at 21:20:31
> KK,
> Right now I live in a mansion and have 5 emty rooms. They did follow the guidlines. Some are professors, some are attorneys, some are teachers, some are farmers, etc.
> LouI wonder if some have delusions ? That would be sad.
I hope they get treatment. I hope they are OK.
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