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Posted by medlib on May 9, 2003, at 2:27:54
At one point I believe that you set the limit for PSB lower than for the other boards. Is it still lower? I don't remember why it was lower; but, if the reason was traffic related, I think that increased posting may have obviated that need. If it's still lower, raising the limit might enhance the continuity of longer threads.
OTOH, have you considered *lowering* the limit for PBA? Often here, especially lately, "relief" seems to be spelled "r-o-l-l-o-v-e-r".
Posted by Dr. Bob on May 9, 2003, at 23:13:48
In reply to Rollover limits -- Dr. Bob, posted by medlib on May 9, 2003, at 2:27:54
> At one point I believe that you set the limit for PSB lower than for the other boards. Is it still lower? I don't remember why it was lower; but, if the reason was traffic related, I think that increased posting may have obviated that need. If it's still lower, raising the limit might enhance the continuity of longer threads.
It's still lower, but I'll raise it some, thanks for the suggestion.
> OTOH, have you considered *lowering* the limit for PBA? Often here, especially lately, "relief" seems to be spelled "r-o-l-l-o-v-e-r".
:-)
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2003, at 17:59:33
In reply to Re: Rollover limits, posted by Dr. Bob on May 9, 2003, at 23:13:48
> > you set the limit for PSB lower than for the other boards... raising the limit might enhance the continuity of longer threads.
>
> It's still lower, but I'll raise it someOK, it hasn't rolled over as quickly the last 3 times, what you think?
Bob
Posted by Ron Hill on June 11, 2003, at 8:25:44
In reply to Re: Rollover limits, posted by Dr. Bob on June 9, 2003, at 17:59:33
Dr. Bob,
There have previously been discussions on PBA regarding the pros and cons of you going to a different format for displaying the posts on the boards of your site. At the time of the most recent discussion, I voiced a vote in favor of keeping the status quo.
However, as the traffic volume continues to escalate on your popular (and useful) site, it could get to the point that rollover occurs every few hours. It’s already to the point that if I’m away for a few days, I need to dig through the recent archives to make sure I didn’t leave someone hanging without a response. Therefore, I thinkin' I might want to change my vote and cast my ballot in the "change the format" box.
I'm sure you've already considered this issue, but I just thought I'd throw it out for possible further discussion.
Thank you for giving us the significant amount of your time (and money) required to provide this forum for us. Thank you.
-- Ron
Posted by noa on June 11, 2003, at 17:47:44
In reply to Re: Rollover limits - An associated issue » Dr. Bob, posted by Ron Hill on June 11, 2003, at 8:25:44
What is the rollover limit for PB2000? (grinning wickedly and looking over shoulder for signs of NikkiT2)
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2003, at 21:21:24
In reply to Re: Rollover limits - An associated issue » Dr. Bob, posted by Ron Hill on June 11, 2003, at 8:25:44
> as the traffic volume continues to escalate on your popular (and useful) site, it could get to the point that rollover occurs every few hours... Therefore, I thinkin' I might want to change my vote and cast my ballot in the "change the format" box.
How are you thinking a different format would solve that problem?
Splitting the board might be another way to deal with that.
Or, it might be self-limiting. As the board gets more busy, it might become less attractive to some people...
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2003, at 21:23:26
In reply to Re: Rollover limits - An associated issue, posted by noa on June 11, 2003, at 17:47:44
> What is the rollover limit for PB2000? (grinning wickedly and looking over shoulder for signs of NikkiT2)
The same as it used to be for PSB. :-)
Bob
Posted by NikkiT2 on June 11, 2003, at 21:31:07
In reply to Re: rollover limit for PB2000, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2003, at 21:23:26
Sooo... what size is it when it rolls??? *grins* And, just out of interest of course, do you know what size it is at the moment??!!!
Nikki
Posted by noa on June 12, 2003, at 4:17:44
In reply to Re: rollover limit for PB2000, posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2003, at 21:23:26
Sly answer, Dr.! You're gonna make me work a bit to get the info, eh?
Posted by shar on June 12, 2003, at 17:30:31
In reply to Re: rollover limit for PB2000, posted by noa on June 12, 2003, at 4:17:44
Posted by Ron Hill on June 17, 2003, at 21:30:40
In reply to Re: traffic volume , posted by Dr. Bob on June 11, 2003, at 21:21:24
Dr.Bob,
> How are you thinking a different format would solve that problem?
Well I have to be careful what I say because I know next to nothing about the subject. I'm not even sure that format is the correct word. But, at the risk of further exposing my ignorance, what I was referring to was a web page structure that displays only the titles of the thread on the main page and if one wants to read the posts one must click on the thread title linking to the page of posts for that thread.
The advantage is that the main page does not need to rollover as often. The disadvantage is that it’s hard to tell what the thread is about and who posted to it by merely looking at the thread title. This is a big disadvantage IMO.
> Splitting the board might be another way to deal with that.
Into what subcategories?
> Or, it might be self-limiting. As the board gets more busy, it might become less attractive to some people...Yeah, right. Like during the '30's in the U.S. when fewer people came to the soup lines because the lines started to get long. NOT! People are hunger Dr. Bob and this site is one of the better tables around.
A year or two ago you said (if I understood you correctly) that the server fees associated with running this site were costing you about $300 per month out of your pocket. Have these costs increased or are they still about the same?
Thank you Sir.
-- Ron
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2003, at 1:05:05
In reply to Re: Traffic Volume » Dr. Bob, posted by Ron Hill on June 17, 2003, at 21:30:40
> > > It’s already to the point that if I’m away for a few days, I need to dig through the recent archives to make sure I didn’t leave someone hanging without a response.
> >
> > How are you thinking a different format would solve that problem?
>
> Well I have to be careful what I say because I know next to nothing about the subject. I'm not even sure that format is the correct word. But, at the risk of further exposing my ignorance, what I was referring to was a web page structure that displays only the titles of the thread on the main page and if one wants to read the posts one must click on the thread title linking to the page of posts for that thread.Always be careful what you say to a psychiatrist! :-)
If there were just one listing per thread, wouldn't you then need to dig through each thread separately to make sure people were responded to?
> > Splitting the board might be another way to deal with that.
>
> Into what subcategories?See the archives for the suggestions that have been made, but on my short list are separate boards for:
caregivers
combinations of medications
fiction
grief
healthy habits
psychosis
recovery
relationships
students.> A year or two ago you said ... that the server fees associated with running this site were costing you about $300 per month out of your pocket. Have these costs increased or are they still about the same?
Verio now gives me 50% more space for the same price, and I'm using space more efficiently, so that cost has stayed the same.
Bob
Posted by Ron Hill on June 18, 2003, at 10:13:13
In reply to Re: Traffic Volume, posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2003, at 1:05:05
Dr. Bob,
> Always be careful what you say to a psychiatrist! :-)
Unless the pdoc is an okay guy; then it's safe to share.
> If there were just one listing per thread, wouldn't you then need to dig through each thread separately to make sure people were responded to?
Yeah, good point.
> > > Splitting the board might be another way to deal with that.
> > Into what subcategories?
> See the archives for the suggestions that have been made, but on my short list are separate boards for:
>
> caregivers
> combinations of medications
> fiction
> grief
> healthy habits
> psychosis
> recovery
> relationships
> students.My first impression: Looks confusing and difficult to delineate subject matter into these compartments. Not an easy problem to solve. I'll think on this one for a while. I used to have lots of time to think about things like this while lying in bed waiting to go to sleep. But now, magnesium supplements put me to sleep so quickly that my think-time has been drastically reduced.
> > A year or two ago you said ... that the server fees associated with running this site were costing you about $300 per month out of your pocket. Have these costs increased or are they still about the same?
> Verio now gives me 50% more space for the same price, and I'm using space more efficiently, so that cost has stayed the same.
I've had this idea for a while. It's just in the idea stage, but what is your initial reaction? What if we had a "Share-a-thon" similar to how PBS TV raises funding? Deputy Administrators and/or volunteer posters would lead the fund raising effort. It would not look right for you to lead any such effort. Many details would need to be worked out, like on which board(s) to hold the Share-a-thon.Due to my reduced available think-time, please let me know if you vehemently oppose this idea. No need for me to waste valuable think-time on something that can't fly. On the other hand, if the general idea sounds like something worth exploring further, then I'll put this project on my think-time-cue for further refinement.
I'm not talking about an on-going fund-raising project, but instead a couple weeks once every six months or so. Pledges, matching contribution challenges, and the like.
-- Ron
Posted by shar on June 18, 2003, at 19:06:16
In reply to Re: Sever Space Rental Costs and Fund-raising » Dr. Bob, posted by Ron Hill on June 18, 2003, at 10:13:13
>Always be careful what you say to a psychiatrist! :-)
.....lolol, ain't that the truth!!
>
> Verio now gives me 50% more space for the same price, and I'm using space more efficiently, so that cost has stayed the same........whew! to me, being unemployed, etc. that is a LOT of money. I wish I could contribute in another way.
>What if we had a "Share-a-thon" similar to how PBS TV raises funding?
.........lol again, I kept reading Shar-a-thon. hahahah. It's no doubt my guilt at not having dollars to contribute. I promise, I would if I could!
Shar
Posted by Ron Hill on June 19, 2003, at 1:45:27
In reply to Re: Sever Space Rental Costs and Fund-raising, posted by shar on June 18, 2003, at 19:06:16
Shar,
> .......whew! to me, being unemployed, etc. that is a LOT of money. I wish I could contribute in another way.
Dollars are not the only way to help. Perhaps you could help run the Shar(e)-a-thon if Dr. Bob gives us the green light on the project.
> .........lol again, I kept reading Shar-a-thon. hahahah. It's no doubt my guilt at not having dollars to contribute. I promise, I would if I could!
No guilt required. I'm not thinking of a few large gifts (although larger gifts would be welcome). Instead, I envision many small gifts; say on the order of five bucks.I like your spirit Shar.
-- Ron
Posted by Dr. Bob on June 19, 2003, at 10:28:05
In reply to Re: Sever Space Rental Costs and Fund-raising » shar, posted by Ron Hill on June 19, 2003, at 1:45:27
> I'll think on this one for a while. I used to have lots of time to think about things like this while lying in bed waiting to go to sleep. But now, magnesium supplements put me to sleep so quickly that my think-time has been drastically reduced.
That's the problem with posters doing better! :-)
> I've had this idea for a while. It's just in the idea stage, but what is your initial reaction? What if we had a "Share-a-thon" similar to how PBS TV raises funding?
> I envision many small gifts; say on the order of five bucks.
This kind of idea has come up before. Wouldn't it be easier just to charge everyone the five bucks and be done with it? I myself don't care so much for all the fund-raising when PBS does it...
Bob
Posted by Dr. Bob on April 21, 2004, at 20:39:38
In reply to Re: Traffic Volume, posted by Dr. Bob on June 18, 2003, at 1:05:05
> on my short list are separate boards for:
>
> caregivers
> combinations of medications
> fiction
> grief
> healthy habits
> psychosis
> recovery
> relationships
> students.OK, here's the 5th new board from that list:
Psycho-Babble Students
http://www.dr-bob.org/babble/studsLet me know what you think, and let's see how this goes...
Bob
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