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Posted by NikkiT2 on October 4, 2003, at 19:40:14
In reply to Re: Twice bitten, actually » Chicklet, posted by justyourlaugh on October 4, 2003, at 18:55:50
I also forgive a one off..
But I lose my ability to forgive after two or three times..
But thats just me. I don't ask anyone to leave this site.. I just ask they leave *me* alone.
Nikki
Posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 20:14:50
In reply to Re: Should I continue or not????????Let me Know, posted by justyourlaugh on October 4, 2003, at 17:32:25
jyl!!!,
I can't believe what I just read. You don't know how much that means to me~I am so very serious. Believe me, I know you remembered me, yet I was so afraid if I told you I was Kristen the anger and bitterness would start up again, and I don't want anymore of that nor do I want to spread it around in my life anymore, it just causes pain. And to see this post from you means so much, you'll never know and I thank you from the bottom of my heart!!!
And, yep~have a double rye on me!!!!
thank you so much for understanding, and such wisdom, I take it to heart full force.
you truly are a nice person!> krissy..
> i only speak for myself , as only anyone can..
> this is a "mental health" board..
> please continue to post..
> i have made my share of mistakes..they teach us.
> go forth into the word a better and stronger woman..
> once bitten,,
> can i have a doble rye.
> j
Posted by justyourlaugh on October 4, 2003, at 21:42:50
In reply to Re: Twice bitten, actually » justyourlaugh, posted by NikkiT2 on October 4, 2003, at 19:40:14
nikki,,
you have my full support,,
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i have learned many lessons being a mother..
it takes some of us many turns at the helm to get on course..others know the secret path.
nikki, you are very wise..
"it is okay to forgive..but never forget!"
thanks for the showing me the importance of this difference.
j
Posted by justyourlaugh on October 4, 2003, at 21:49:39
In reply to Re: Should I continue or not????????Let me Know » justyourlaugh, posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 20:14:50
krissy,
i have never felt anger or bitterness about you.
you scared me..because i knew it was possible for me to fall off that edge of ..life..
i still worry that your pain will overcome you..but try to remember,,many of us will falter,and falter again,,,
we will make it to the promised side..
jyl
Posted by shar on October 4, 2003, at 22:29:21
In reply to Should I continue or not????????Let me Know, posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 13:04:17
You're very courageous to 'come clean' and I admire that. Luckily, some of us who didn't get real involved in that situation are so old we have bad memories (me) and while I would hate to re-experience those events, as far as I'm concerned you are welcome here.
I know some people got hurt, you were probably hurting, and it doesn't sound like you want to re-experience that either.
Shar
Posted by Jonathan on October 4, 2003, at 22:41:06
In reply to Should I continue or not????????Let me Know, posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 13:04:17
Posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 22:43:23
In reply to Re: Should I continue or not????????Let me Know » galkeepinon, posted by shar on October 4, 2003, at 22:29:21
>>>>as far as I'm concerned you are welcome here.
Shar, thank you very much for your kindness, I really appreciate it.
>>>>I know some people got hurt, you were probably hurting, and it doesn't sound like you want to re-experience that either.Yes, unfortunately, people got hurt emotionally, I was definately hurting, and no, I don't ever want to experience things like that ever again, here, or in my private life.
Thank you for your support and understanding Shar, I wish you the best always.
take care
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 0:31:48
In reply to Re: Twice bitten, actually » justyourlaugh, posted by NikkiT2 on October 4, 2003, at 19:40:14
Nikki, I owe you an apology for the mean things I said to you when this all happened. For some reason you and I had the most aweful things going back and forth for such a very short time after I left the board as Krissy.
I am very sorry, and I mean it from the bottom of my heart~I really do.
Take care.> I also forgive a one off..
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> But I lose my ability to forgive after two or three times..
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> But thats just me. I don't ask anyone to leave this site.. I just ask they leave *me* alone.
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> Nikki
Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 10:45:36
In reply to Re: » Chicklet, posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 15:08:02
>>I would probably be unwelcomed and I don't like to be where I am not welcomed.
So the deception really was a conscious effort. To protect yourself. Because if you'd said who you were, you wouldn't have felt "welcomed".
>>There were only a few that were involved,
Doesn't make the least bit of difference how MANY were involved. You played around with people's emotions. I'm sorry you didn't feel well at the time, but this was way more than one little faux pas.>>and in a way, I shouldn't give away my power
You don't have the power to give away>>and allow them to stop me coming here or allowing them to make me feel unwelcome
You asked the opinions of the board. Some will welcome you back, some won't. If you feel unwelcome then maybe you shouldn't post...because the people who have been hurt are not going to change their minds.
>>I think people have committed way more horrible things than me.
!!!!!And this makes it...acceptable?
You can just say sorry and leave it at that. By mentioning 'other people', you sound as if you're minimizing what you did.>> I just don't want anymore drama.
Really?
huh.
That's it for me re: this issue.
This is bull****.Karen
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> > Kristen- I was around when the stuff went down before. While I was not personally affected, there were many many other good souls on this board that were. People reached out to you and you lied to them.
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> > I guess if you'd come right out from the start and said, "Everyone, it's Krissy again...I'd like to start over if you'll give me a chance" it would've been different. But you lied again...making statements such as "I don't usually post here"
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> > It's nice that you fessed up but posting as someone new was a tad obnoxious and really deceptive. It's not for me to say whether you'll be welcomed. Supporting others would have meant more if you hadn't posted as galkeepinon.
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> > And For Dr. BOB- What the ________??????!!!
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Posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 11:22:40
In reply to Should I continue or not????????Let me Know, posted by galkeepinon on October 4, 2003, at 13:04:17
Hi..
I'd just like an apology ..you're as welcome as anyone else..
Hope you're ok now.
You may continue :-)
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 12:46:11
In reply to You asked for opinions » galkeepinon, posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 10:45:36
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 12:48:56
In reply to Re: Should I continue or not????????Let me Know » galkeepinon, posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 11:22:40
Hi..
I don't remember a 'slinky' here, were you posted under another name, so I can get a better feeling of who I am apologizing to and I can remember what happened.
Thank you for saying I am as welcome as anyone else:-)
Appreciate that.
Take care> Hi..
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> I'd just like an apology ..you're as welcome as anyone else..
> Hope you're ok now.
> You may continue :-)
Posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 13:12:05
In reply to Slinky » slinky, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 12:48:56
Dreamer...I was.
It's ok..don't have to apologize..
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 13:24:23
In reply to Re: Slinky » galkeepinon, posted by slinky on October 5, 2003, at 13:12:05
dreamer, I apologize if you were affected by my emotions during that time.
Of course I want to apologize:-)
Take care.
Kristen
> Dreamer...I was.
> It's ok..don't have to apologize..
Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 14:45:04
In reply to Thanks for sharing:-) (nm) » Chicklet, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 12:46:11
Posted by Tabitha on October 5, 2003, at 17:34:15
In reply to Re: Slinky » slinky, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 13:24:23
> dreamer, I apologize if you were affected by my emotions during that time.
> Of course I want to apologize:-)
> Take care.
> Kristen
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>Well I'm going to speak bluntly here. It's not your emotions that caused trouble. What I remember is when someone posted saying they were your dad and claimed you had attempted suicide and were in a coma, then later we were told that you were fine and in fact it was you posting as your dad.
I can tell you, that hurt me and a lot of other people. Standing by helplessly watching someone you care about kill themself is one of the worst experiences life can offer. To think that someone would perpetuate a suicide hoax here, and inflict that helpless feeling on us, apparently out of malicious or careless intent-- is about the worst thing I can imagine doing in a community like this.
I still feel angry remembering those events. If that was you who did that, an admission and apology might help people welcome you back. If not, an explanation is needed to clear up the mistrust.
Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 18:03:12
In reply to Re: apologies » galkeepinon, posted by Tabitha on October 5, 2003, at 17:34:15
Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 19:31:05
In reply to Re: Slinky » slinky, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 13:24:23
Oh yeah- and another thing...
>> dreamer, I apologize if you were affected by my emotions
No one was affected by your EMOTIONS, Kristen. They were affected by you and your actions. There's a mammoth difference there.
And emoticons aren't going to make everything nice-nice.
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:35:45
In reply to Re: apologies » galkeepinon, posted by Tabitha on October 5, 2003, at 17:34:15
Tabitha, I understand. I will be blunt here too, as well as completely honest, and this is where I'm coming from:
To believe people and yes, even people I meet online' care about me, is something I still, today, have a very hard time comprehending, so I guess when you say 'Standing by helplessly watching someone you care about kill themself is one of the worst experiences life can offer.'~I have no doubt that it is, and even to hear you say that now, that you AND others did care about me then, is hard for me to accept. Not at all that I don't believe you, but because at that time, and still in the present, I don't feel worthy of anyone caring about me. It's obvious from recent posts the last few months, and I'm working on it. My depression gets really bad sometimes, not that it is an excuse at all!!, however that's the best way I can explain it to you with what I have right now. That's the only way I can explain it. I even told Bob that I spent the whole month of May of this year in the hospital for a total medication change, because yes indeed something wasn't right, and it hurt people here. I never wanted to hurt anyone by saying what I did, but I did, and all I can do is say I'm sorry, because I am. I can't go back and change what happened, all I have is right now.
As far as a hoax, I wanted to die, as far as posting as my father, yes I admit that I did~ABSOLUTELY unacceptable, it was never done out of maliciousness, it was done out of a cry for help, and I went about it the wrong way, the very wrong way~I understand that now.
I am very sorry that you were affected and I hope that you can feel better and not hold on to the hurt anymore about what happened, for you.
I'm sorry Tabitha,
Take care> >
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> Well I'm going to speak bluntly here. It's not your emotions that caused trouble. What I remember is when someone posted saying they were your dad and claimed you had attempted suicide and were in a coma, then later we were told that you were fine and in fact it was you posting as your dad.
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> I can tell you, that hurt me and a lot of other people. Standing by helplessly watching someone you care about kill themself is one of the worst experiences life can offer. To think that someone would perpetuate a suicide hoax here, and inflict that helpless feeling on us, apparently out of malicious or careless intent-- is about the worst thing I can imagine doing in a community like this.
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> I still feel angry remembering those events. If that was you who did that, an admission and apology might help people welcome you back. If not, an explanation is needed to clear up the mistrust.
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:42:35
In reply to Emotions » galkeepinon, posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 19:31:05
> Oh yeah- and another thing...
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> >> dreamer, I apologize if you were affected by my emotions
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> No one was affected by your EMOTIONS, Kristen. They were affected by you and your actions. There's a mammoth difference there.
> And emoticons aren't going to make everything nice-nice.Karen, as you stated>>'That's it for me re: this issue.' so thank you for you thoughts and input one last time. I'm not here to be bullied or put down by you, therefore I won't be reading anymore of your posts regarding this matter.
Thank you and have a good week.
Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 19:48:56
In reply to Please be civil » Chicklet, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:42:35
>>'That's it for me re: this issue.' so thank
yeah I wish it had been.>> you for you thoughts and input one last time.
ok , you don't have to read this although you probably already have. I'm not bullying you. I'm telling you what I think.
> Thank you and have a good week.
You too, dear.
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Posted by Chicklet on October 5, 2003, at 19:50:41
In reply to Please be civil » Chicklet, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:42:35
>>Either I'm welcome back or I'm not, simple as that.
I have enjoyed really helping and getting support here and I'm glad it continued for so long, but it may be time for me to go now....
What do you think????
Posted by madwand on October 5, 2003, at 21:29:52
In reply to Re: apologies » Tabitha, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:35:45
Kristen,
I just want to reiterate my privately-expressed support for you and for your staying here. To my observation, "Galkeepinon" has contributed enormously to this board and the people here, and if "Krissy" made a wrong decision at one point, it appears to have stemmed from a lot of pain rather than malice.
I hope that someday you will be able feel in your heart what I believe you know in your mind -- that people really *do* care.
To those who (perhaps out of their own hurt), are having trouble forgiving, let me propose a reframe. Consider what was going through your minds was back when the infamous note appeared and consider the progression of that state of mind had it turned out to be true. Judging from past events I suspect it would have been one of sadness and loss.
Now flip back to the "real sequence" of events.
Kristen is still here and has not been lost after all! Isn't that a lot better than the other possibility?
I say this not to turn this into a debate nor to minimize the hurt that those who were here at the time experienced. But I do invite you, in the privacy of your own soul, to consider it. While it would have been better had it never happened at all, how do those two alternatively respectively make you feel?
Posted by Tabitha on October 5, 2003, at 21:56:05
In reply to Re: apologies » Tabitha, posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 19:35:45
Gal, thank you. That meant a lot to me. I think I can understand better now what was happening with you when you did that. It's sad indeed if you thought news of your suicide attempt would not matter to anyone.
I lost my mom to suicide-- I tell you this so you'll maybe understand why it is a hot-button issue for me. There was also a Babbler who did commit suicide-- it was verified and someone from here attended her funeral. I was new and was not close to her, but I saw other people go through extreme pain from it. In light of that, a false report of a suicide attempt just seemed so hurtful.
Gal, I admire your courage for owning your past identity. Best wishes on your attempts to mend things with people. You have every right to be here.
Posted by galkeepinon on October 5, 2003, at 23:53:54
In reply to Re: Thank You » galkeepinon, posted by Tabitha on October 5, 2003, at 21:56:05
Tabitha, you are very welcome. I certainly understand now, why suicide is a 'hot-button' issue for you. I am so sorry I made it worse by doing what I did then.
I also did NOT know of the former PB poster who did commit suicide.
Thank you for the wishes, I will tell you that when you apologize to people and really mean it, not only is it is so hard for them, because they were hurt, or angry, or really felt deceived or betrayed, but you don't know how they are going to react. I've gotten a few reactions in my email, positive and negative, and here and all I do is sit back and think, wow, I need to give the other person the right to be angry or hurt, and I count my blessings regarding the ones of support and understanding~that's all I can do. I'm learning that people will not always forgive you, and they have that choice, even for the small mistakes we make in life, and mine wasn't that small. It affected people here and that is why I had to be up front.
Most importantly, and I mean this to everyone, that the remorse I feel now for things that I could have done differently in my relationships, in my personal life AND here on PB is a lot worse then even thinking about repeating them. I do not plan on repeating them. I'm not perfect, and I sure have learned a lot from this.
I have been doing well on my medication, but this 'confession' is not caused by medication, it was caused by a person who realizes that medication can help me obviously, but, I also have to make amends, and not burn bridges in the first place because a person doesn't react the way I want or think he/she should, I can simply *choose* to walk away from relationships and situations that I don't want to be around without 'biting back'. I did that to Nikki and she didn't deserve it.
I don't think that this has been easy for anyone who did know me when I was posting as Krissy, forget about what I feel, I owe it to this board, the people I hurt, directly AND indirectly, and Bob.
Tabitha, I wish you nothing but the best in your life and once again, I'm so sorry.
Ithink I've rambled enough...
Take care of yourself.> Gal, thank you. That meant a lot to me. I think I can understand better now what was happening with you when you did that. It's sad indeed if you thought news of your suicide attempt would not matter to anyone.
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> I lost my mom to suicide-- I tell you this so you'll maybe understand why it is a hot-button issue for me. There was also a Babbler who did commit suicide-- it was verified and someone from here attended her funeral. I was new and was not close to her, but I saw other people go through extreme pain from it. In light of that, a false report of a suicide attempt just seemed so hurtful.
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> Gal, I admire your courage for owning your past identity. Best wishes on your attempts to mend things with people. You have every right to be here.
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