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Posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:37:40
I don't mean to sound like a defeatist, and this is not directed to any person in particular. My observation is that, in reviewing the archives and based on my experiences here, the rules are slowwww to change, if ever. We're talking moss growing on the north side of a sloth slow. Situations escalate, tempers flare, feelings are hurt, old traumas are triggered and new ones developed. It really is the same old same old. There isn't even a pattern, but it crops up repeatedly.
Is it that Dr Bob is resistant to incorporating new ideas or suggestions?
Is it that he'd rather we, as posters, sort out our personal differences without the intervention of him or the deputies?
Is it that he is forcing us to be responsible ourselves for what we read, what we say, and how we say it?
Is it that he doesn't have the time or energy?So many questions. Asked over and over, by many, for so long. And all for nought. He doesn't reply, he won't address direct confrontation or requests for clarification. He's deaf and mute to our repeated pleas.
I hate to see people hurting. I hate to see people hurt each other. The civility rules and enforcement are inconsistent, I agree. I can't spend as much energy as others on trying to affect change, perhaps because I am apathetic? or perhaps because I recognize when Dr Bob is being successfully stubborn?
Just my musings and opinions.
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 11:47:12
In reply to Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:37:40
The blocking system is the problem.
Everything else, we can handle.
Lar
Posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 12:04:50
In reply to Re: Resistance Is Futile, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 11:47:12
> The blocking system is the problem.
>
> Everything else, we can handle.
>
> Lar
Yes, but what are the chances of the blocking system being revised, given what I believe about Dr Bob's capability for change?
CS
Posted by Dinah on June 5, 2006, at 13:11:51
In reply to Re: Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 12:04:50
In nearly every aspect of my life, resistance generally is futile.
Just think what happens automatically when you encounter resistance. Isn't the automatic reaction to stiffen and push back? Even with simple physical, non emotionally charged, resistance.
Resistance may indeed be futile with Dr. Bob, but reasoning and respect for his point of view can bring about change if he can be brought to see the value of your point of view. Otherwise he will (naturally enough) do what he thinks best. And a fair bit of patience and persistance.
But isn't that true of most people?
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:34:30
In reply to Re: Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 12:04:50
> > The blocking system is the problem.
> >
> > Everything else, we can handle.
> >
> > Lar
>
>
> Yes, but what are the chances of the blocking system being revised, given what I believe about Dr Bob's capability for change?
> CS
>I don't know. He doesn't even acknowledge listening to you. Yet, he'll pull up obscure posts that he's made, to justify a particular act he's contemplated or done. Like, we should know, or something. And, like that explains it.
Lar
Posted by muffled on June 8, 2006, at 15:40:48
In reply to Re: Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 12:04:50
> > The blocking system is the problem.
> >
> > Everything else, we can handle.
> >
> > Lar
>
>
> Yes, but what are the chances of the blocking system being revised, given what I believe about Dr Bob's capability for change?
> CS
>***Bob DOES change stuff. He's changed how the blocking works. But he's STUBBORN!!!! bout some stuff. Needs his *rse kicked he does.
But I think he proly means well.
I don't think we are the easiest people to deal with perhaps?
I dunno, people are funny. Don't reallly understand people.
Dogs yes, people no.
Sigh.
Muffled
Posted by Jakeman on June 9, 2006, at 3:09:39
In reply to Re: Resistance Is Futile » ClearSkies, posted by Larry Hoover on June 5, 2006, at 13:34:30
Bob has has his issues, too, all therapists, all humans do. I don't hold it against him. In Jungian terms, how do you deal with you own shadow.
warm regards, Jake.
> > > The blocking system is the problem.
> > >
> > > Everything else, we can handle.
> > >
> > > Lar
> >
> >
> > Yes, but what are the chances of the blocking system being revised, given what I believe about Dr Bob's capability for change?
> > CS
> >
>
> I don't know. He doesn't even acknowledge listening to you. Yet, he'll pull up obscure posts that he's made, to justify a particular act he's contemplated or done. Like, we should know, or something. And, like that explains it.
>
> Lar
Posted by muffled on June 21, 2006, at 23:45:12
In reply to Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:37:40
Posted by Jakeman on June 22, 2006, at 0:08:21
In reply to Resistance Is Futile, posted by ClearSkies on June 5, 2006, at 11:37:40
I've come to believe that all these long posts about blocks, etc. are are waste of time. Has he every changed his mind? No disrespect intended Dr. Bob but these discussions are useless. Have you ever reversed a decision? Give up people and accept the program or leave. I know it's discouraging to posters.
warm regards, Jake
> I don't mean to sound like a defeatist, and this is not directed to any person in particular. My observation is that, in reviewing the archives and based on my experiences here, the rules are slowwww to change, if ever. We're talking moss growing on the north side of a sloth slow. Situations escalate, tempers flare, feelings are hurt, old traumas are triggered and new ones developed. It really is the same old same old. There isn't even a pattern, but it crops up repeatedly.
>
> Is it that Dr Bob is resistant to incorporating new ideas or suggestions?
> Is it that he'd rather we, as posters, sort out our personal differences without the intervention of him or the deputies?
> Is it that he is forcing us to be responsible ourselves for what we read, what we say, and how we say it?
> Is it that he doesn't have the time or energy?
>
> So many questions. Asked over and over, by many, for so long. And all for nought. He doesn't reply, he won't address direct confrontation or requests for clarification. He's deaf and mute to our repeated pleas.
>
> I hate to see people hurting. I hate to see people hurt each other. The civility rules and enforcement are inconsistent, I agree. I can't spend as much energy as others on trying to affect change, perhaps because I am apathetic? or perhaps because I recognize when Dr Bob is being successfully stubborn?
>
> Just my musings and opinions.
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