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Posted by muffled on August 19, 2006, at 18:26:14
Its gotten way out of hand.
Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of hand.
Mebbe all this stuff should go over to the religion board or something?
That would clear up this board and cause less trouble, cuz alot of people are fed up with stuff here.
AND DON"T ASK ME WHAT.
IT DON"T F*CKING MATTER.
I'll shut the f*ck up now.
Muffled
Posted by Estella on August 19, 2006, at 18:57:39
In reply to I give up on admin., posted by muffled on August 19, 2006, at 18:26:14
Sometimes I think I have a chance to learn it...
Admin isn't being hijacked.
Due to the three post rule...
People can always choose to simply stop responding rather than feeding the conversation.
IMHO that is the point of the three post rule. As a board... We can fairly much stop this at any time. Just stop posting to the topic.
But people don't.
And thus...
People are choosing to keep it alive.
Posted by Estella on August 19, 2006, at 18:59:02
In reply to Re: Self Control, posted by Estella on August 19, 2006, at 18:57:39
I'm fairly tempted to go archive hunting...
Lou got blocked for one year. One year.
I'd be feeling pretty hurt about that if I was Lou.
Pretty f*cking hurt.
I wonder whether blocking escalated or not...
Dunno...
Posted by Lou Pilder on August 20, 2006, at 9:32:25
In reply to Re: Self Control, posted by Estella on August 19, 2006, at 18:59:02
Friends,
It is written,[...I'm tempted to go archive hunting...]
That could shed more light on this. You could go to 04 in the admin board and see my requests to Dr. Hsiung there to sanction those posts that have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings and see his responses and also se where he did not respond. What you can not see are the emails from me to the university and to Dr. Hsiung.
What you will see is that it is a condition for me to be a member here, that I accept that statements that have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings are considered to be civil by DR. Hsiung. What I also have to accept as to a condition for me to be a member here , is that I will be expelled if I do not accept it. These are called the "Lou rules" by another poster here. That poster could see, and was willing to post tht these rules ,in his opinio, are to harass me and intimidate me and be used to force me off the forum.
I have to accept that. I have to accept that many members want that. I have toaccept discrimination of the worst kind, for I have to accept the defamation fostered here toward Jews and me as jew in order to be a member of this community, for DR. Hsiung will determine what is civil.
Lou
Posted by Estella on August 20, 2006, at 11:19:57
In reply to Lou's rsponse to Estella's post, posted by Lou Pilder on August 20, 2006, at 9:32:25
When did you first arrive at babble, lou? I'm interested in whether people escalate before or after blocks...
I remember... You used to ask for determinations and the like quite a lot... To the point where... One would have a full time job keeping up with them. I would bet that that is why... You didn't get responses for all of them.
> What you will see is that it is a condition for me to be a member here, that I accept that statements that have the potential to arrouse antisemitic feelings are considered to be civil by DR. Hsiung.
That is one way of looking at it. Another way of looking at it would be that you might just need to accept that statements that YOU feel have the potential to arrouse antisemetic feelings are not thought to have the potential to arrouse antisemstic feelings by OTHERS including Dr Bob.
Other people don't see it that way, Lou.
Can you see things from their perspective?
>I will be expelled if I do not accept it.
You will be expelled by Bob if you break the civility guidelines. Whether you choose to break them or not is up to you.
With respect to the community... People are pretty good at giving support to those who are here seeking support and to those who are here to support others. If you are here to persuade the community that there have been statements that are likely to arrouse antisemetic feelings then that might be a different matter, however.
Firstly, people might not take kindly to the notion that ANY statements (including those you have cited) are likely to arrouse antisematic feelings. People might be concerned that... You are accusing them of something akin to racism.
I'm sorry that you feel harrassed and intimidated. I think... I think that sometimes you get a bit of a hard time because of your insisting on posting stuff regardless of others feelings. I know that when you requested civility determinations you weren't trying to get people blocked. I know you said that and I believe you. But fact is that some people DID feel persecuted by your doing that and... You continued to do it regardless of their feelings. A consequence of those kinds of decisions is that often people respond in kind and do things despite how we are likely to feel.
It isn't about your being Jewish, Lou.
I wouldn't have known you were Jewish if you hadn't decided to tell me.
Your worrying so much about people persecuting you because of your being Jewish... Seems to lead you to interpret people as persecuting you because of your being Jewish. Self fulfilling prophecy, self confirming bias, people eliciting from others that which they most fear etc.
I'm sorry Lou.
Posted by Estella on August 20, 2006, at 11:23:41
In reply to Re: Lou's rsponse to Estella's post, posted by Estella on August 20, 2006, at 11:19:57
I'm sorry, I didn't see that you were blocked.
Take care.
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