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Posted by linkadge on February 8, 2004, at 18:27:44
If you are anxious, put an earplug in your left ear, and a eyepatch over your right eye.
This will force your right hemisphere to start working again.
Linkadge
Posted by afatchic on February 8, 2004, at 21:47:19
In reply to please try this, posted by linkadge on February 8, 2004, at 18:27:44
That is so funny! How did you find out about this? I've got to try it. I'm hoping others will try this and report their findings. Oh, how long are you suppposed to do it? I can't really see myself going to classes with the pirate look.
> If you are anxious, put an earplug in your left ear, and a eyepatch over your right eye.
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> This will force your right hemisphere to start working again.
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> Linkadge
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Posted by linkadge on February 9, 2004, at 7:06:56
In reply to Re: please try this, posted by afatchic on February 8, 2004, at 21:47:19
I tried this, after about 30 minautes, I noticed a distinct shift in mood, almost like a switch.
All of a suddn things seemed more "what you see is what you get" and my anxiety ceased there.
Linkadge
Posted by hildi on February 11, 2004, at 17:05:55
In reply to Re: please try this, posted by afatchic on February 8, 2004, at 21:47:19
What a Hoot! This actually works? I have to try it. By the way, I thought you were on benzos for anxiety? I might be mistaken- I haven't been on PB for quite a while now so must be thinking of someone else . . .
Posted by afatchic on February 11, 2004, at 20:20:28
In reply to Re: please try this » afatchic, posted by hildi on February 11, 2004, at 17:05:55
You must be thinking of someone else. I've never been on anxiety drugs. I only take St John's wort and occaisonally valerian root for anxiety.
afatchic
> What a Hoot! This actually works? I have to try it. By the way, I thought you were on benzos for anxiety? I might be mistaken- I haven't been on PB for quite a while now so must be thinking of someone else . . .
>
Posted by hildi on February 14, 2004, at 16:45:37
In reply to Re: please try this, posted by afatchic on February 11, 2004, at 20:20:28
I have been thinking of trying st. johns wort. It's either that or trying AD's again. I can't handle this depression without something. I have been AD free for a little while now, due to all the side effects after trials of almost them all.
My depression has been crippling me in many ways. It's time to try a new route but I worried that the st. johns wort would not be enough for my kind of depression.
I am on a benzo for the anxiety, but I'd love to be off of them. If valerian could handle it I would be releived. The benzos give me strange feelings and some S/E's, too.
I'm glad you are able to find relief naturally. If you don't mind me asking, do you 'just' have mild depression? And also, were you on prescription AD's before trying the st. johns wort?
Hildi
Posted by afatchic on February 14, 2004, at 17:22:14
In reply to Re: please try this » afatchic, posted by hildi on February 14, 2004, at 16:45:37
Hildi,
No, I don't mind you asking. I have mild depression and anxiety. There have been times when I've been moderately or even severly depressed but mild depression is my "normal" state.
I've tried many antidepressants in the past. I first tried trazodone and really liked the results but I started gaining weight. I switched to Prozac which I thought was even more effective but my sex drive went away and never came back. I took Prozac for several years without knowing it was related to my libido problems. When I quit, I thought my sex drive would return but it seems to be gone for good.
I've briefly tried Effexor, Wellbutrin, and Serzone but had SEs with them and didn't want to continue. Effexor was especially scary.
St. John's wort is good for me but not quite as effective as Prozac was. I also take fish oil and magnesium which I strongly recommend. Here's a link to one of my favorite sites about magnesium and depression: http://www.coldcure.com/html/dep.html
afatchic
> I have been thinking of trying st. johns wort. It's either that or trying AD's again. I can't handle this depression without something. I have been AD free for a little while now, due to all the side effects after trials of almost them all.
> My depression has been crippling me in many ways. It's time to try a new route but I worried that the st. johns wort would not be enough for my kind of depression.
> I am on a benzo for the anxiety, but I'd love to be off of them. If valerian could handle it I would be releived. The benzos give me strange feelings and some S/E's, too.
> I'm glad you are able to find relief naturally. If you don't mind me asking, do you 'just' have mild depression? And also, were you on prescription AD's before trying the st. johns wort?
> Hildi
>
Posted by hildi on February 14, 2004, at 21:36:24
In reply to Re: please try this » hildi, posted by afatchic on February 14, 2004, at 17:22:14
Hi. Thanks for the quick reply. I don't know what type of depression I have. Moderately severe is what I would term it right now- also sort of vegetative (although I don't know if that's the proper word for it) but there have also been times since I've been off my antidepressants that I was not feeling suicidal and overwhelmed, and also was able to focus and function. Unfortunately that is not how I feel now, but I think my depression does change somewhat.
For a while I thought I did not have major depression, but rather dysthymia (what IS that word??)- that is sort of a constant, milder form of depression. The one thing that is always constant is anxiety. My depression is always an anxious kind.
I may try the SJW. It may be worth a try. My dr wants me to try lexapro or nortripyline. Due to past experience on SSRIs I am not thrilled at the thought of trying another. As for the nortript, I'm a little worried about that, too. Effexor, wellburin, both gave me feelings of unreality. Like an acid flashback. I worry about that happening with the nortript. However, I was diagnosed with a begining stage of a lung disease, must quit smoking, and nortrypt has been shown in trials to be effective in quitting smoking.
I don't know what I'll do.
Do you know anyone that's tried SAMe, if the SJW does not work?
I have checked out that website you sent. I do take magnesium, however it has not cured my depression as it has the author of that site.
He also mentions taurine, boron, etc . . do you take any of that? I tried taurine and it made me more nervious. It might have been too high a dose, not enough time, or something else entirely-so I don't know if it really was the taurine.
I'm sorry to hear about the prozac effect on you. To me it did the opposite. But it also caused me mania. I think some of these drugs must be incredibly potent to cause continuing damage/effects, even after discontinuation. I have heard others talk of lingering side effects long after the med was stopped. For me, I think the AD's increased my anxiety tremendously. I cannot function right now without benzos, and I only started to take them after stopping ADs due to bizzare reactions on my nervous system and emotions.
Hildi
PS What is your dosage of SJW?
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