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Posted by arrie on June 21, 2004, at 17:01:20
This is an african plant used for opiate withdrawl, not available in the USA but used in clinics in Mexico and Norway I believe. Has anyone ever tried this?
Posted by guttersnipe on June 23, 2004, at 17:11:19
In reply to Has anyone ever tried Ibogaine?, posted by arrie on June 21, 2004, at 17:01:20
I took ibogaine twice as a recreational drug about 15 years ago. It felt sort of like a combination of about 50 micrograms of LSD and about 15 shots of espresso (not the decaf kind); too jittery for me, although some of my friends liked it. I would think that the jittery effects would make opiate withdrawal feel worse, not better -- but that is just speculation on my part because I did not take ibogaine to treat opiate withdrawal.
You should be aware that ibogaine is a Schedule I controlled substance in the U.S. (I can't speak knowledgeably about its status under Mexican or Norweigan drug laws), and you should also be aware that ibogaine can be addictive.
If your heart is set on using a plant-based alternative treatment to help get you through opiate withdrawal, then instead of the iboga root you might consider the leaves of the kratom tree (Mitragyna speciosa). In Thailand where the tree grows wild, people use kratom to reduce the effects of opiate withdrawal. Unlike ibogaine, kratom is perfectly legal to import into the U.S. and is perfectly legal to possess and consume in the U.S.
However, just because an herbal remedy is legal does not mean that it is completely safe -- like ibogaine and opiates, kratom too can be addictive. Here's a link to some info about this legal herb: http://www.erowid.org/plants/kratom/kratom.shtml
If you choose to use either ibogaine or kratom, please do so with due caution. I wish you the best of health.
Posted by arrie on June 24, 2004, at 10:59:42
In reply to Re: Has anyone ever tried Ibogaine?, posted by guttersnipe on June 23, 2004, at 17:11:19
For the info. I am not planning on doing it but have run across it in my research, it sounds interesting and the best way to find things out is from others that have been there hence my post. UUUmmm that is a new one that you mentioned, some of these herbs are really powerful, I have also thought of maybe getting some real Kava imported. How do they make synthetic opiates, like what we take in pill form I wonder? These pills are not plant based so what are they made of?
Posted by Larry Hoover on June 27, 2004, at 14:23:25
In reply to Has anyone ever tried Ibogaine?, posted by arrie on June 21, 2004, at 17:01:20
> This is an african plant used for opiate withdrawl, not available in the USA but used in clinics in Mexico and Norway I believe. Has anyone ever tried this?
There was a thread on ibogaine on the Substance Use board earlier this year. It's legal in Canada (or was, anyway), but from all I've read, this substance may well be useful for treating opiate addiction, but it must only be used under direct medical supervision.
Try doing a babble search on ibogaine. It should turn up that thread.
Lar
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