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Posted by KaraS on November 19, 2004, at 22:50:05
Anyone ever try this or have any opinion on its use for depression? This is the formula with procaine but I'd also be interested in hearing about trials with the non-procaine formula. Anyway, here's the blurb from Beyond A Century:
GEROVITAL-H3, domestic copy of original Romanian formula, sold as a nutritional supplement. Studies show it to be a reversible MAO inhibitor, and to have anticortisol effects.
Posted by tealady on November 20, 2004, at 1:56:08
In reply to Gerovital -H3, posted by KaraS on November 19, 2004, at 22:50:05
I think my grandmother took that for many years..about 30 years ago..if its the same..maybe I'm connfused?
She took it as an Alzheimers preventative as she nursed her mother-in -law with it and didn't want to live if she got it..and it worked for that.She also never had any depression.
Only person I know who has used it.Jan
Posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 2:51:17
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3 » KaraS, posted by tealady on November 20, 2004, at 1:56:08
> I think my grandmother took that for many years..about 30 years ago..if its the same..maybe I'm connfused?
> She took it as an Alzheimers preventative as she nursed her mother-in -law with it and didn't want to live if she got it..and it worked for that.
>
> She also never had any depression.
> Only person I know who has used it.
>
> Jan
Hmmmm. Maybe she never had any depression BECAUSE she used it?-K
Posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 13:23:14
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3, posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 2:51:17
I have experimented several times with Vitacel GH-7 which I got from AchillesHealthMart. After taking it for about 3 weeks I did seem to get a very mild antidepressant effect, and it did seem that I was able to handle stress a little better. Oddly enough, I noticed that my the texture of my hair improved, becoming less coarse. I felt too though that it was making me feel a little edgy, which is why I stopped taking it the last time. However I am considering adding it back into my regimen with some tryptophan or other anti-anxiety supplements.
> Hmmmm. Maybe she never had any depression BECAUSE she used it?
>
> -K
>
Posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 13:26:50
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3, posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 2:51:17
I have experimented several times with Vitacel GH-7 which I got from AchillesHealthMart. After taking it for about 3 weeks I did seem to get a very mild antidepressant effect, and it did seem that I was able to handle stress a little better. Oddly enough, I noticed that my the texture of my hair improved, becoming less coarse. I felt too though that it was making me feel a little edgy, which is why I stopped taking it the last time. However I am considering adding it back into my regimen with some tryptophan or other anti-anxiety supplements.
> Hmmmm. Maybe she never had any depression BECAUSE she used it?
>
> -K
>
Posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 13:36:32
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3, posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 13:26:50
> I have experimented several times with Vitacel GH-7 which I got from AchillesHealthMart. After taking it for about 3 weeks I did seem to get a very mild antidepressant effect, and it did seem that I was able to handle stress a little better. Oddly enough, I noticed that my the texture of my hair improved, becoming less coarse. I felt too though that it was making me feel a little edgy, which is why I stopped taking it the last time. However I am considering adding it back into my regimen with some tryptophan or other anti-anxiety supplements.
>
> > Hmmmm. Maybe she never had any depression BECAUSE she used it?
> >
> > -K
> >
>
>Is Vitacel GH-7 exactly the same thing as Gerovital? Does it have the procraine or not?
Posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 14:19:46
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3 » jakeman, posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 13:36:32
> > I have experimented several times with Vitacel GH-7 which I got from AchillesHealthMart. After taking it for about 3 weeks I did seem to get a very mild antidepressant effect, and it did seem that I was able to handle stress a little better. Oddly enough, I noticed that my the texture of my hair improved, becoming less coarse. I felt too though that it was making me feel a little edgy, which is why I stopped taking it the last time. However I am considering adding it back into my regimen with some tryptophan or other anti-anxiety supplements.
> >
> > > Hmmmm. Maybe she never had any depression BECAUSE she used it?
> > >
> > > -K
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> >
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> Is Vitacel GH-7 exactly the same thing as Gerovital? Does it have the procraine or not?
>It does have procaine plus some additional vitamins such as niacin. You should be able to find the exact formulation on their website-- http://www.achilleshealthmart.com You can find info on the original European version here: xxx
Posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 15:18:55
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3 » KaraS, posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 14:19:46
Posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 16:35:24
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3 - Thanks (nm) » jakeman, posted by KaraS on November 20, 2004, at 15:18:55
Your're welcome. Here's another link with a list of recommendations/articles about supplements for lowering cortisol. Samaritan Pharmaceuticals was (or is) developing a procaine based drug called Anticort, but for some reason it's no longer mentioned on their web-site.
Posted by Dr. Bob on November 20, 2004, at 18:02:27
In reply to Re: Gerovital -H3 » KaraS, posted by jakeman on November 20, 2004, at 14:19:46
> You can find info on the original European version here: xxx
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