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Posted by paxvox on November 17, 2001, at 20:01:16
Welcome to all the F.N.G.s of late, hope you are enjoying the party so far. Well, I have a week off for Thanksgiving, a bittersweet time as I see family I only see once a year, and often have to re-explain what's up with me. Even my brother, who is a Neurologist, frowns at my "need" for meds. I guess he sees it as a weakness somehow. Better suffer? Strange logic. However, I will choose to take that one small step. Some day, I may see clearly again, and discover where I have been. Until then, I will play the Pdoc game of med and tread..."see ya in 4 months" says he.
PAX
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Posted by Greg A. on November 18, 2001, at 10:40:18
In reply to One Small Step, posted by paxvox on November 17, 2001, at 20:01:16
Hi Pax,
F.N.G.'s??
You know, I don't mind when some people want to know how things are going. They care and they want to know. The other side is like with my neighbour yesterday. He calls me when he wants a favor and then in a sort of obligatory way, asks how things are going. (He knows most of the picture with me - hard to cover for hospitalization) He does not really want to know. He does not understand, or even try to. Funny, his first wife suffered from depression and eventually took her own life. He told me it was hell to live with her. Trips to the hospital etc. I imagine it was hell to live with him. I'd like to say he means well but lacks the understanding to know what to do. But i think he regards depression as a weakness, that he is too strong to succumb to.Good luck with the relatives. Otherwise enjoy the week off.
Greg
Posted by susan C on November 18, 2001, at 11:55:58
In reply to Re: One Small Step, posted by Greg A. on November 18, 2001, at 10:40:18
> Hi Pax,
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> F.N.G.'s??
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Mom's still here, uncles funeral was yesterday, and it was good i wasnt there, it was tiring even for hub and mom. I am sorry I didn't get to see all the cousins tho...and as grega says, and you, there is this vague, 'she is feeling under the weather and didn't want to push it' kind of comments from hub. I have decided I need to learn how to play card games, something to
occupy our time...when we are together, mom and me.what would you say if you knew for certain, that you would always feel this way, with some brief stops of 'clear sky' along the way?
Emotional Storm Index ESI
1. Clear Sunny No turbulance
2. Clear and windy
3. Gathering Clouds, mostly sunny
4. Low Fog breaking in AM or PM
5. Occasional Showers
6. Rain, for next X days
7. Rain with windgusts
8. Rain, major lowp ressure area for X weeks
9. Rain mixed with snow
10. Rain mixed with snow, ice, gusts to 40mph no clearing in site.mouse with a weather map
susan C
Posted by paxvox on November 18, 2001, at 20:57:06
In reply to Re: One Small Step, posted by susan C on November 18, 2001, at 11:55:58
Golly Mouse, I would try a different weather channel!. When I get those "I can't stand to be this way all my life feelings" I try to remember my first experience with AD meds in 1987. Gee after crapping out on the tricyclics, I said to hell with that! Then Prozac came out, and I had some hope, and some positve change. Now the WB. I have to hope there will be a med before too long that will be the new thing in psychopharmacology. When more and more of us start yelling louder that WE ARE NOT ALONE WE ARE NOT GOING TO SIT IDLE! Then the medical field and the Med companies might listen. I have been seriously stressing lately with the health questions, and this has not helped, I think I need some more benzos, but I know Pdoc won't go for that. Hoping I can convince Internist.
PAX
Posted by Gracie2 on November 26, 2001, at 22:14:46
In reply to One Small Step, posted by paxvox on November 17, 2001, at 20:01:16
How strange!!!!! How very odd that a neurologist would frown on psychiatric medication. I thought most doctors had outgrown that kind of archiac
thinking, that therapy and ADs had an unacceptable stigma. Just amazing.I have only two guesses. The first is that this neurologist, despite his training and the fact that he ought to know better, is a "macho man" who believes you should be able to "tough it out"
through anything. This kind of person really wanted to be in the Navy Seals. Also, this sort of doctor scares the hell out of me, because I'm afraid he might treat his patients the same way
and is so stingy with pain medication that his patients really suffer.My second guess is this. I've worked in hospitals for 20 years, and normally your run-of-the-mill neurologist is just a real bastard. They scream, they throw things, they call you names. Whether this is because they honestly believe they are a deity or because they have such a stressful job,
many of them act this way.To be honest, I've had arguments with nurses who believe that cardiologists are even worse than neurologists. But for my money, I'm betting on neurologists as being one of the most stressed-out, high-strung, opinionated, unpleasant people I've ever had the misfortune to meet. Actually, it was a major deciding factor in my life to specialize in orthopedics so that I would no longer have to deal with neurologists.
So you ignore that crap, and you take care of yourself.
-Gracie
P.S. I apologize in advance to patients who love their neurologists. This was my experience and my personal opinion only. However, if you've ever had a tray of Betadine thrown at you, your opinion might be different.
To each his own - G
Posted by paxvox on November 29, 2001, at 9:35:43
In reply to Re: One Small Step, posted by Gracie2 on November 26, 2001, at 22:14:46
Thanks for your honest response, Gracie. A lot of people don't want to hear the "truth" sometimes, and somehow many people still want to deify doctors. BTW, my brother is a Neurologist, and he fits your profile to a "T". Just this past week, he and I had an argument about his perceived omniscience. I reminded him of a quote by Benjamin Franklin, that essentially said the most intelligent person is the one that realizes how little he/she knows. Too, there is also a lot of professional competition between specialists where the fields "overlap". Anyway, I am lucky enough that my Internist will at least listen to me, and help me to some degree when the others will not!
PAX
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