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Posted by ShelliR on November 21, 2002, at 16:06:13
Hey Beardy,
This is related to your last post, but I didn't want to distract from wharfrat, in moving the focus of that thread to you.
I know how you hate taking meds. I remember quite a while ago, you got very annoyed when many PBabblers were suggesting to you the possible need to increase, change ADs.
I guess I'm feeling a little too frustrated, to not suggest revisiting that possiblity. Not just ADs, but possibly looking into hormonal causes, thyroid, etc. Not because it's necessary, but because you only go around once (probably), and why waste time making this a control issue with yourself.
Depression is *obviously* not always under our control. We can do the best we can. We can get help from therapy and friends, but for some of us, sometimes we just don't have total control over our brains and body. And we can choose to fret and kick ourselves, or we can feel compassion for ourselves and try to accept whatever help might be available: ADs, omega fatty acids, alternative medicine, whatever. What if it was your husband or daughter that hurt this way? Would you be blaming them?
End of lecture.
Shelli
Posted by BeardedLady on November 21, 2002, at 17:03:47
In reply to Beardy.........., posted by ShelliR on November 21, 2002, at 16:06:13
> I know how you hate taking meds.I know I have to take them. And I don't mind having to take the Serzone and an occasional sleeping pill. As I have "lectured" others, they are just like taking allergy meds or asthma inhalers or blood pressure pills.
>I remember quite a while ago, you got very annoyed when many PBabblers were suggesting to you the possible need to increase, change ADs.
I don't know that I got annoyed, but let me just say that I have been seeing doctors (lots of them) for five years now. I have mentioned switching ADs. No one thinks it's a good idea. All think I'm on the best one for my problem and my person. I don't know how better to say it, but I've had second and third opinions, and I have to trust my doctors over babblers when it comes to meds.
> I guess I'm feeling a little too frustrated, to not suggest revisiting that possiblity. Not just ADs, but possibly looking into hormonal causes, thyroid, etc.
I am frustrated too. I saw my pdoc and therapist yesterday. My pdoc FINALLY referred me to a sleep clinic, and the doctor there can't see me til January 14.
I have had a physical as recently as March, but I am checking in with my gynecologist regarding perimenopause, and I'll have her do the thyroid check, too.
>Not because it's necessary, but because you only go around once (probably), and why waste time making this a control issue with yourself.
Like many of you, I have spent countless hours, weeks, days at doctors. The summer before last, I had doctors' appointments every day for two weeks, and then again daily weeks later. I had three CTs of my head and one MRI last year.
> Depression is *obviously* not always under our control. We can do the best we can. We can get help from therapy and friends, but for some of us, sometimes we just don't have total control over our brains and body. And we can choose to fret and kick ourselves, or we can feel compassion for ourselves and try to accept whatever help might be available: ADs, omega fatty acids, alternative medicine, whatever.I agree. I am trying whatever's available. But Ativan is making me sick, forgetful, headachy, sleepy, and crappy. I just want one full night of sleep to prove I can still do it, and I'm sure I'll be able to do it again and again.
>What if it was your husband or daughter that hurt this way? Would you be blaming them?
Never. And I'm not sure I'm blaming myself for my condition. Maybe my post above wasn't clear. I'm blaming myself for making it worse by blaming myself.
My therapist already told me not to beat myself up but to treat myself really well. He told me to go kill something inanimate. I haven't done that yet, but I'm going back in the basement to cut glass for my next project. And I just wrote a really good poem.
> End of lecture.
Thanks for caring.
Beardy
Posted by BeardedLady on November 21, 2002, at 17:58:36
In reply to Beardy.........., posted by ShelliR on November 21, 2002, at 16:06:13
That poem I referred to above--the one Plath probably already wrote about coming undone--I've written. I am still working on revisions, but I got this idea about an unfinished coat in the attic (I knit occasionally, and my taste in woolens is muy expensivo) and about how hard it is to unravel.
Anyway, I'm trying to turn it all into major productivity. But inside I am hurting very, very much.
Again, thanks for your compassion.
beardy
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