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Posted by 64bowtie on January 20, 2005, at 22:21:45
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Re: What should I share here?
Posted by TofuEmmy on January 18, 2005, at 8:43:23TE,
>Try a 10 list Rod
<<< I’ll get to it (organizing a top ten list) for Sunday or Monday! Thanx! I do need to organize, and re-organize, DAILY!!!!!
Rod
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on January 18, 2005, at 11:02:31
Rod,
> I'm interested in how you deal with death. Death and dying being one of my biggest fears. I know it is a universal and unconscious fear. Have you addressed this or has it ever bothered you???Miss Honeychurch,
<<< Out-of-the-box, I immediately get in trouble! I can’t seem to find any empirical evidence for Freud’s (admitted) invention of the unconscious mind. Also, I see no practical use of this mystical state of mind. I prefer to see a conscious mind keeping us alive. Ergo, in order to be unconscious, we must be worm-food. I see a foreground awareness among the 5 classic senses, and background awareness of all nine senses. Sight is the sexy sense! It has 3 states: foreground sight, foreground/background mix of sight and mind’s eye (daydreaming is one manifestation), and totally background in the mind’s eye (asleep and dreaming). Note that some folks sleep with their eye’s open, but can’t see with sight when they are asleep!<<< The book, "The Second Brain" helps me shed light on what might be misinterpreted as unconsciousness. Our wiley gut is the probable culprit. As children, most moral guidance is stored in the gut. If the rest of or knowledge finds its way there toooo, we might have a tough time with this invisible and background sense as we navigate an otherwise harmless life. The other four senses, of which the gut is one, are balance, location (as in where the hands are going and have been), and the vagus nerve, responsible for telling us about our state of wellness. Ever feel crappy and you can’t pinpoint what it is? The vagus nerve knows, but is background awareness and ain’t tellin’ in the foreground!
<<< Ok, about death and dieing…. On my 40th birthday, I declared that I can’t fret about death anymore since, from Anthropology I had learned that for the longest time, man was on “borrowed time” anytime after age 40. So I just get up everyday thankful that I still can, and then I go out and kick @$$! If that sounds toooo glib or flip for you, I understand. Death is an unknown, till it happens. I dread the vision (in my mind’s eye) of witnessing my death actually taking place, no matter how quickly and mercifully it might happen. I saw a studied horror on my Mom’s face when she connected that she wasn’t leaving the hospital alive! It was so obvious to me that I still cringe when I remember it. Yeah! I won’t enjoy my moment of death, but I don’t have time to worry and fret about it till then; when it actually happens!
Thanks for connecting to me and my stuff….
Rod
Posted by Tabitha on January 18, 2005, at 13:15:47
Rod,
>I don't think I've ever really heard your story of recovery. You've posted bits and pieces. I'd be interested-- sort of a "How it was, what I changed, how it is now" story.
I'm also interested in particular beliefs you adopted to get better. You've posted some rather long pieces on different topics. Would it be possible to summarize? Rod's top 10 healthy beliefs or something? I get lost in the long topics sometime. I need Rod's belief system for Dummies.
And as always, I admire you for being brave enough to ask for feedback.Tabitha,
<<< Thanx mucho gusto for your clear idea. I can put in some mind-grind and come up with something nice. Can you wait about a week or till maybe Monday? I lived it so it won’t require research!!! …just organization, …just putting this here in front of that there!
Rod
Posted by tootercat on January 18, 2005, at 17:43:41
Rod...People usually (myself included) relate to those who have shared like experiences. When you say "I have not HAD to use meds" or "been in therapy" it makes you different and somehow "above" what the rest of us "less self sufficient" folks had to do to get where we are.
You're not a monster and you are trying to help.
It just sounds sometimes like you're preaching and not sharing....It's attraction NOT promotion that works!
Hugs,
PamToots,
Actually I feel apologetic that I can’t be specific about what helped. I didn’t get “meds” and I didn’t get therapy, yet I went (came) a long, long, long way from the ogre I was, till the sweet little snoooookums I am today (still Shrek green around the edges!). Tabitha asked for then-what-now, so see how I handle that and then point out where I need s’more work.
Rod
Posted by just plain jane on January 18, 2005, at 23:07:11
Hmmmmmmmmm... I like to share love. Usually it comes out like the sound of a braying jackass.
JPJ,
>How 'bout you share who you are in anecdotes about you, not what you do/did so much as who you are?
>What's your take on things other than the subjects you've already covered?
<<< I’m very concerned for the world over the next 18 months and over the next 6 years; I hope I get to see 2012, since 2011 is gonna be a challenge to get through!
>Do you have difficulty relating socially on other topics?
<<< Hey, I’m “glad-hander” type socializer… I usually know most everyone at the party!
>Do you want Atticus to come visit you?
<<<…scarey thought! Does he do dishes before he leaves?
>Got anything funny to share?
<<< Why DID that darn rooster cross that byway, anyway? Answer: Dr Kevorkian said it was time!
>What else goes through your mind?
<<< I invent in 3 an 4 dimensions, and I analyze in the 5th dimension. I have invented a new ping-pong table just to drive the Chinese crazy!
>Ah... share your shoe size, for starters, and work up from there.
did i really say that?<<< Size 12 EE
>share yourself and share what others have to share.
<<< Hmmmm……… I hope I have!
Rod
i dunno.
that's just me
just plain jane
<<<<<<<<<< Thanx to all-a-y'allsRod
Posted by just plain jane on January 20, 2005, at 22:55:38
In reply to Maybe I could share a few thingys, posted by 64bowtie on January 20, 2005, at 22:21:45
Rod,
Ummmm... not to be nosy or anything, but, ah, how many thingys do you have???
I really enjoyed your post and thank you for sharing. Please share those Newtons you have hidden under your desk, on your lap, also.
And don't be tellin' me those are thingys.
just plain sweeeet jane
Posted by Miss Honeychurch on January 21, 2005, at 8:50:10
In reply to Maybe I could share a few thingys, posted by 64bowtie on January 20, 2005, at 22:21:45
First, I think the plural of "thingys" is probably "thingies"
Second, thanks for your response. As usual, I feel much too shallow to fully grasp what you have to say. I do like that you kick @$$ everyday! ANd I like the concept of living on borrowed time after 40 so live it up. Hopefully, I will be able to get to a point one day where I can tell myself to stop worrying and I will.
So if you don't believe in the unconscious, what are dreams?
Posted by 64bowtie on January 21, 2005, at 13:22:39
In reply to Re: Maybe I could share a few thingys, posted by Miss Honeychurch on January 21, 2005, at 8:50:10
Miss HC,
> First, I think the plural of "thingys" is probably "thingies"
><<< Can we find a compromise? ...thingy(s)?
> So if you don't believe in the unconscious, what are dreams?
<<< Dreams can be more clearly seen and attested to as "today's unfinished business getting done while we rest and recuperate"... a sort of mental ordering or housekeeping process. Nightmares are a source of mental blackmail. When replayed in the light of day they can and do highjack our feelings!!! Doesn't mean they really mean something. Sorta like replaying a horror movie with us as the stars.
<<< All that said, information does emerge from dreams and dream state. So I take the information that emerges very seriously, but never do I succumb to fear of the abstract! Fearing the information contained in a dream is not a healthy use of the information itself, no matter how beguiling the information might be.
<<< I do accept the sub-conscious; if you get past your grammar school science, that we only have 5 senses, this probably reads better. We have 4 other senses, gut, balance, location and vagus nerve that are very powerful and work very well with sight and sound every moment of every day. Those only function in background-awareness; the sub-conscious if you will.
<<< I wrote a magazine article called, "The Concert of the Mind", where I tell a story in excruciating slow-motion, every moment of what goes on for a baseball pitcher pitching, and the same thing for the batter who's batting. A concert really goes on and the musicians are the nine senses. The pitcher and batter are adversarial, sorta like "Battle of the Bands" (orchestras)! Note: if either have the flu, they have to overcome their vagus nerve that is telling them to rest and relax.
<<< Sight is by far the "King Kong" of the senses. In your darkest moments, your sight is what keeps you alive!!! On a lighter note, your sight guarantees you that your tomorrow won't be exactly like your yesterday!!! ...and I don't mean TV is different on Thursday than it is on Tuesday....lol!
Rod
Posted by 64bowtie on January 21, 2005, at 13:27:18
In reply to Re: Maybe I could share a few thingys » 64bowtie, posted by just plain jane on January 20, 2005, at 22:55:38
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