![[dr. bob]](/dr-bob-sm.gif)
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.orgShown: posts 1 to 7 of 7. This is the beginning of the thread.
Posted by zeugma on March 16, 2005, at 22:35:32
that is the word for me.
terrified of losing my job
that is abjection
awake with nothing in my head
abjection is dull, passionless, it hates itself
but not the piercing hate that drives one
it is nearer contempt than hatred.
and abject is part of a series, object, subject
(talsimanic words)
eject, the unrefined version of abjection
if you add an 'r' it becomes a torment
surject, I loved learning that word
but it's drugs or age, they've destroyed my memory, and neither drugs nor age
dull abjection
abjection is the least dignified of the series, but am I wrong
in thinking it subtle
it is emptiness with movement
[it's constipation, no more]
-z
Posted by alexandra_k on March 16, 2005, at 23:11:15
In reply to abject, posted by zeugma on March 16, 2005, at 22:35:32
I haven't heard that word before...
Today everything seems 'dull flat and unprofitable'. Is that related at all?
Posted by sunny10 on March 17, 2005, at 9:42:37
In reply to Re: abject » zeugma, posted by alexandra_k on March 16, 2005, at 23:11:15
Main Entry: ab·ject
Pronunciation: 'ab-"jekt
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Latin abjectus, from past participle of abicere to cast off, from ab- + jacere to throw -- more at JET
1 : sunk to or existing in a low state or condition <to lowest pitch of abject fortune thou art fallen -- John Milton>
2 a : cast down in spirit : SERVILE, SPIRITLESS <a man made abject by suffering> b : showing utter hopelessness or resignation <abject surrender>
3 : expressing or offered in a humble and often ingratiating spirit <abject flattery> <an abject apology>
I personally am amazed that it is not used more often these days.My constant reaction to the news programs is abject horror. I believe my reaction to be part of the desensitization of our era.....
Posted by zeugma on March 17, 2005, at 16:26:54
In reply to Re: abject » zeugma, posted by alexandra_k on March 16, 2005, at 23:11:15
> I haven't heard that word before...
> Today everything seems 'dull flat and unprofitable'. Is that related at all?
>>Yes, the Hamlet-like vacillations and equivocations. I'm sorry you didn't get in to grad school :-) You WILL have better luck in October, I am sure.
I feel a little better. But I do feel a little 'abject', chronically. I didn't pull the word from Shakespeare, though. Here's where I got it from:
What if the world crashed in
Refolding behind your eyelids
Cracked your mind
Cracked your mindJanet and Johnny and James
Crash your mind
Behind your eyelidsThe people behind you
With nepotism
Explodes
All that rubbish you create
In the [lock]
Suddenly [cranking]
NepotismJanet and Johnny and James
Janet and Johnny and JamesDearest Lord, hear me now
Janet and Johnny
Coming over the mountain
From New Guinea
They see the star
From you, our creator
A startling vision of a future that didn't happen
Ian and Eric
The stars trace
Over Janet and Judy
And James
And Susan and Johnny
The skies reflect
Dear Lord, help them in their abject search
From Guineas and the bearded man
From the hills
Never seen again
Janet and Johnny and James
Reflect on your life-Mark E. Smith, The Fall
The Fall have a number of other songs where the word 'abject' turns up, and there is a motif of abjection pervading their work. I am a freak, because I obsess over music: I listen to ONE band at a time, and they're all I can listen to for months or even years. It's been the Fall since last fall. Abjection.-z
Posted by zeugma on March 17, 2005, at 16:30:45
In reply to Re: abject, posted by sunny10 on March 17, 2005, at 9:42:37
Thanks for doing the dictionary work and digging up the etymology and illustrious uses (I had forgotten the Milton usage, reminds me of why I carried Paradise Lost everywhere with me for two years!).
We have become desensitized. It's our loss. I don't know if desensitization is going to reverse itself at some point. Thanks for the reply.
-z
Posted by zeugma on March 17, 2005, at 17:16:22
In reply to Re: abject » alexandra_k, posted by zeugma on March 17, 2005, at 16:26:54
I'm sorry you didn't get in to grad school :-)>> that was an embarrassing typo, if not abjectly so :-( as I posted elsewhere you deserve better and will get to where you want to be.
-z
Posted by sunny10 on March 18, 2005, at 9:41:14
In reply to Re: abject » sunny10, posted by zeugma on March 17, 2005, at 16:30:45
I certainly hope so- though, in truth, I'm now sure how that would come about...
This is the end of the thread.
Psycho-Babble Social | Extras | FAQ
Dr. Bob is Robert Hsiung, MD,
bob@dr-bob.org
Script revised: February 4, 2008
URL: http://www.dr-bob.org/cgi-bin/pb/mget.pl
Copyright 2006-17 Robert Hsiung.
Owned and operated by Dr. Bob LLC and not the University of Chicago.