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Posted by RjLockhart98 on March 25, 2005, at 23:17:50
I have it on msnbc, i dont think she is going to make it another 2 days.
Posted by RjLockhart98 on March 26, 2005, at 11:01:09
In reply to Terri Shivo's Condition, this is terrible, posted by RjLockhart98 on March 25, 2005, at 23:17:50
Posted by rainbowbrite on March 26, 2005, at 11:24:22
In reply to Re: starvation to death.....legally,,morally? (nm), posted by RjLockhart98 on March 26, 2005, at 11:01:09
Its just plain cruel IMO. Such a sad story, my heart aches for the family :-(
Posted by used2b on April 1, 2005, at 1:09:36
In reply to Re: starvation to death.....legally,,morally?, posted by rainbowbrite on March 26, 2005, at 11:24:22
It amazed me how loudly a few people protested her wishes when the vast majority of the public understood her husband's love. It's one thing to disagree, but it seemed some people were taking the position that if you don't agree with them, you are aiding and abetting to murder (their words, not mine). Well, the courts ruled repeatedly in her favor, the public overwhelmingly understood her wishes and her husband stood by her regardless death threats and withering abuse. But these protesters seemed unable to understand there could possibly be any valid point of view other than their own.
One thing that confused me ... protesters kept talking about "her family" ... "the family". It reminded me of Brittany Spears saying she is anxious to "start a family". Uh, didn't she just get married? Some people seem to know all about when life begins and when it is supposed to end ... they are all about the sanctity of the family, but somehow they just don't appreciate that when two people are legally married, they are a family.
Posted by rainbowbrite on April 1, 2005, at 15:26:43
In reply to Re: starvation to death.....legally,,morally?, posted by used2b on April 1, 2005, at 1:09:36
>>It amazed me how loudly a few people protested her wishes when the vast majority of the public understood her husband's love. It's one thing to disagree, but it seemed some people were taking the position that if you don't agree with them, you are aiding and abetting to murder (their words, not mine). Well, the courts ruled repeatedly in her favor, the public overwhelmingly understood her wishes and her husband stood by her regardless death threats and withering abuse. But these protesters seemed unable to understand there could possibly be any valid point of view other than their own.
I guess all I can say is it is subjective. But, we can all have our 'own' opinions and we can all speak 'our' own minds/opinions loudly if we so choose to.
>>One thing that confused me ... protesters kept talking about "her family" ... "the family". It reminded me of Brittany Spears saying she is anxious to "start a family". Uh, didn't she just get married? Some people seem to know all about when life begins and when it is supposed to end ... they are all about the sanctity of the family, but somehow they just don't appreciate that when two people are legally married, they are a family.
Again, possibly subjective...but is it legal to have two 'families' per se? He is either married to Terri or he is with his fiance and has children with her?? YES?
As for the family....parents, siblings..compared with a husband who has a new women in his life and has kids, well I think if I were Terri I would want my parents making the decision...whatever the decision is. i was brought into the world by them and if the time came when someone needed to make a decision based on whether I die or live...I would say the people who brought me into this world can do the deciding and not the man who may be involved in a new family now. But I would hope that there would be enough compassion among all my family including my husband (my new family) that this would NEVER EVER be an issue. Just my opinion :-)
Posted by used2b on April 1, 2005, at 20:14:00
In reply to Re: starvation to death.....legally,,morally? » used2b, posted by rainbowbrite on April 1, 2005, at 15:26:43
it seems to me if all those protesters were that anxious to assure every living body got rehabilative care, they could spend a few hours a day spoon feeding some indigent people who might want rehab but can't afford it. Or maybe quietly visiting those who are dying alone for want of a compassionate touch and someone with whom to share a meal.
The thing with Terri is her parent's refusal to let her have her way once she was mature provided a public forum for people whose evangelical faith values recruiting others more so than serving others. Their passion for their own subjective desires nearly drowned out Terri's own words, repeated by her closest friends, and consistently understood by some of the very same justices these evangelicals have been organizing to put in power.
This idea that somebody can bully me or anybody else into accepting their "culture of life" is quite disturbing to me, especially when the well-to-do executive proclaiming this new culture is not especially inclined to subsidize life with his own excess wealth. I'm thinking all this "culture of life" rhetoric is overcompensation by some people who refuse to share freely with others the things that could let more people enjoy their brief taste of life while it lasts.
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