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Posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
I was just thinking...
How do we *really* know that Maxime just moved away and got a really good job and doesn't have access to a computer?
It occurred to me that some people might plan their "disappearance" in such a way as to not upset people.
Deneb
Posted by ClearSkies on August 27, 2005, at 17:40:12
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
Deneb, I can't read your posts anymore.
Even with the warning in the subject lines,
They are too upsetting for me.
I'm sorry.ClearSkies
Posted by Gabbix2 on August 27, 2005, at 18:28:10
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
> I was just thinking...
>
> How do we *really* know that Maxime just moved away and got a really good job and doesn't have access to a computer?
>
> It occurred to me that some people might plan their "disappearance" in such a way as to not upset people.
*
> Deneb
****QUIT!*****
Posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 18:32:25
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
Posted by Nickengland on August 27, 2005, at 18:48:18
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
>How do we *really* know that Maxime just moved away and got a really good job and doesn't have access to a computer?
We don't *really* know anyone who we're comunicating with via the internet, let alone their personal business.
>It occurred to me that some people might plan their "disappearance" in such a way as to not upset people.
Are you saying this is what Maxime has done? I think if she did return this could upset her, and it does appear this is starting to upset other posters.
Has it occured to you (I was not here at the time but have read the archives) that there has been a poster here who did commit suicide? Some people on this site who still post today were close to that person, in that they communicated with her for some time.
The subject you're are talking about and the way you are, i'm quite sure is going to bring back some painful memories for people around here.
At the same time I'm aware that your thinking about this quite alot by the looks of things. Its hard to realise how serious you are because you're talking about this in what seems at times a joking mannor...when of course this is very serious.
Theres alot of people who read here and i'm not sure whether this is the right place to say *everything* on your mind especially when discussing suicide.
If it was and you was interested I could discuss in great length to you about how my grandfather committed suicide, but if I was to do that I think it would be uncivil and I could get blocked.
Do you know what I mean?
Kind regards
Nick
Posted by Nickengland on August 27, 2005, at 18:49:47
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger* » Deneb, posted by Nickengland on August 27, 2005, at 18:48:18
Posted by sleepygirl on August 27, 2005, at 19:12:57
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
Hey Deneb, you're sort of scaring me, you seem to have a bit of a morbid preoccupation going on, everything OK?
Posted by rainbowbrite on August 28, 2005, at 2:06:43
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
Are you trying to upset people? Im serious. you are doing a tremendous job!
Posted by alexandra_k on August 28, 2005, at 4:18:03
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
I think these thoughts occur to everyone at times...
At least... It occurs to me most times when I ask where somebody has got to and whether anyone has heard from them.
Its a frightening thought.
And its something we can't know one way or the other.
So I guess most people just choose to not dwell on it...
To hope for the best
Have a little faith
Posted by slinky on August 28, 2005, at 9:16:09
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by alexandra_k on August 28, 2005, at 4:18:03
Deneb..
This is all to familiar..maybe you're the same poster from ages ago.
I felt compelled to read and tearful.
I'm sorry for your pain ..maybe you should visit the nearest hospital to see patients who are terminally ill to get out away from the computer world and see the pain and trauma of others.I have to try and see that you are ill, I hope you evolve through this obsession .
Love light peace.
Posted by slinky on August 28, 2005, at 9:20:16
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger* » alexandra_k, posted by slinky on August 28, 2005, at 9:16:09
Posted by TamaraJ on August 28, 2005, at 9:32:19
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
What to say . . . First, I have always found Maxime to be straighforward and honest, and I have admired that in her. She doesn't pull any punches. So, I don't think that Maxime would have connocted some ruse about a new job in order to "sneak" off and end it. Although I am not close to her, we did exchange some e-mails, and a couple of those were before she left for her new job. I won't say much, but I will say, as others here know, that she was excited about her new job and the challenges it presented. I think that out respect for Maxime, and her friends on the board, it would have been more appropriate to have asked out of concern whether anyone had heard from her and, if so, how she was doing.
It is obvious that many people here care about you. Perhaps you can return the sentiment by being a bit more judicious in initiating your "trigger" threads. I am not easily triggered anymore, although I have lost a loved one to suicide and have been to funerals to support friends who have lost loved ones to suicide. That being said, every reminder does take me back to the thoughts and memories that I have spent years dealing with. I am sure that there are many others here in the same position. We are all here trying to support each other, trying to make each day a little more bearable and help, in any way we can, others just make it through the day when the struggle seems too hard and not worth it. I understand your need to express your thoughts, no matter how dark they may be at times. All I would ask is that you put yourself in others' shoes before you hit the submit button and think about what effect a "trigger" post may have on members of the community, not to mention three in a row.
So, all that long-winded post was leading to were two simple messages - Respect and Restraint.
> I was just thinking...
>
> How do we *really* know that Maxime just moved away and got a really good job and doesn't have access to a computer?
>
> It occurred to me that some people might plan their "disappearance" in such a way as to not upset people.
>
> Deneb
Posted by Sarah T. on August 28, 2005, at 12:09:40
In reply to Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger*, posted by Deneb on August 27, 2005, at 17:17:21
I think we should believe Maxime. It is perfectly understandable to think about Maxime and to wonder how she is doing; however, it is unfair to Maxime and to everyone else to publicly project this sort of fantasy onto her. Maxime and all PB posters are free to come and go as they please, and they are not accountable to us or to Dr. Bob. I am aware that often, when people's lives are better, they spend less time on PB and less time on the Internet in general (unless being on the Internet is part of their job). I've also come across several people who actually feel better when they limit the amount of time they spend here. Some leave permanently, and some stop by only occasionally, deliberately limiting their time here to a quick perusal of the medication, alternative and health boards, to see whether there are any new treatments on the horizon.
As I've said in previous posts, I believe that Psychobabble should exist not just for support and education, but for the purpose of promoting mental health. Support and education should always be in the service of mental health so that we can live better, healthier, more productive lives in the brief time we are given on Earth.
Deneb, I've said this before, and I'll say it again. I think you are a highly intelligent, creative and sensitive person, and I do think it would be good for you to find the very best therapist you can find so you can make the most of your many talents. I suspect that most of us have problems that stem from both physiologic and psychosocial dysfunction. Some of those psychosocial stressors may be current, while others may have occurred earlier in our lives but left deep internal wounds that need to be cared for. It is our responsibility to tend to our wounds, just as we would care for a beloved child or pet.
Posted by rainbowbrite on August 29, 2005, at 2:13:12
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger* » Deneb, posted by rainbowbrite on August 28, 2005, at 2:06:43
Im sorry if I was uncivil. I was reacting to my own issues
Posted by alexandra_k on August 29, 2005, at 3:11:34
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger* » rainbowbrite, posted by rainbowbrite on August 29, 2005, at 2:13:12
(((Rainbowbrite)))
Just thought you could use another hug.
Posted by rainbowbrite on August 29, 2005, at 4:19:44
In reply to Re: Just thinking about Maxime *Trigger* » rainbowbrite, posted by alexandra_k on August 29, 2005, at 3:11:34
thanks
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