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Posted by Deneb on January 4, 2006, at 19:24:38
People here don't have infinite patience with me.
Only my hamsters (may they RIP) and possibly Dr. Bob (as long as I'm civil) have that.
I think I should stop posting until I can behave like a normal person again.
:-(
Deneb
Posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2006, at 19:33:25
In reply to People here don't have infinite patience, posted by Deneb on January 4, 2006, at 19:24:38
> People here don't have infinite patience with me.
> Only my hamsters (may they RIP) and possibly Dr. Bob (as long as I'm civil) have that.I don't think either of them have infinite patience either...
Maybe if there is a god...
;-)
> I think I should stop posting until I can behave like a normal person again.
I think you should help people out (including yourself) by contacting your p-doc and telling him that things have been very up and down since you stopped taking your meds.
I think that if people here can see that you are prepared to do something pro-active towards helping yourself...
That they will be really proud of you and they will feel like they can help you.
Because... If we see you trying to help yourself... Then we know our help and support will assist you towards doing more and more to help yourself... Ultimately... Thats how we get to where we want to be in life... Ultimately thats how we create the life we want to live. Because... Nobody can do it for you. And if it was handed to you it would be fairly worthless anyways because the value comes in it being YOUR creation and YOUR achievement.
But when you don't seem to be doing anything pro-active to help yourself...
Then it can feel like all the effort I put in to validate your feeling... Well it only offers temporary relief. And it needs to be fairly constant like a drip... Which is draining on me, yes.
And... Not really so very helpful to you either.
It is up to you.
I know it is scarey.But you have done it before.
And I have confidence that you can do it again.
Scarey yes.But...
How important is it to you?
It is your decision.
Posted by Phillipa on January 4, 2006, at 19:58:03
In reply to Re: People here don't have infinite patience » Deneb, posted by alexandra_k on January 4, 2006, at 19:33:25
Alex excellent! Fondly,Phillipa
Posted by Emily Elizabeth on January 4, 2006, at 23:06:19
In reply to People here don't have infinite patience, posted by Deneb on January 4, 2006, at 19:24:38
Hey Deneb,
Does your university have counseling/support groups for students? My pdoc was talking to me today abt joining one. I'm going to look into it even though it scares me a little. I know that when people find the right group for them, they can be very helpful. It seems like you feel so alone IRL and it might help to connect w/ other students who struggle with some of the day to day stuff of being in college. Also, when you are feeling well/okay/fine you can help others and when you are feeling at the end of your rope/distressed/hopeless others can help you.
Look online and/or ask your pdoc, okay?
Best,
EE
Posted by gardenergirl on January 5, 2006, at 13:00:53
In reply to People here don't have infinite patience, posted by Deneb on January 4, 2006, at 19:24:38
Deneb,
I don't think anyone has infinite patience. Some have more than others, as in all characteristics. But everyone has a limit somewhere. And that limit may change due to what's going on in that individual's own life.gg
Posted by alesta on January 5, 2006, at 13:27:31
In reply to Re: People here don't have infinite patience, posted by gardenergirl on January 5, 2006, at 13:00:53
> Deneb,
> I don't think anyone has infinite patience. Some have more than others, as in all characteristics. But everyone has a limit somewhere. And that limit may change due to what's going on in that individual's own life.
>
> ggyes. i concur miss gg. :-) as they say, the only person who potentially had infinite patience was nailed to a cross...and i ain't signing up for that experience...:)
kisses,
alesta
Posted by Sarah T. on January 6, 2006, at 2:24:47
In reply to People here don't have infinite patience, posted by Deneb on January 4, 2006, at 19:24:38
Why should anyone here have infinite patience? Each of us is struggling with our own problems, although we do try to help others as best we can.
Very few posters here are therapists or therapists-in-training. And, for legal, ethical and other reasons, those who are therapists or studying to be therapists would be well-advised NOT to attempt to "treat" people they meet online.
I've said this before, but I guess I have to say it again: We are not therapists. Dr. Bob is not our therapist and, therefore, he is not your therapist. You have to find a therapist you can see in person, closer to where you live. Psychobabble is not a therapy board. It is not a substitute for real, live therapy with a real, live therapist, which you need.
I can't find the post now, but in the last few days, someone else here (ClearSkies, perhaps?) made the decision to recuse herself from threads like this. From now on, I am going to do the same. Many of us here have tried over many months to help you in so many ways; all this, in spite of our own distress. And now, it's the same thing all over again, every other week or so. I think I would be "enabling" if I allowed myself to get enmeshed in this type of thread again.
I am very sorry that Larry has been blocked again while he was trying to help. He is such a great asset to this forum. He has so much to offer, and he gives so generously. And HE is the one who was blocked??? I don't understand. I will never understand.
Posted by muffled on January 6, 2006, at 13:16:27
In reply to Do YOU have infinite patience? » Deneb, posted by Sarah T. on January 6, 2006, at 2:24:47
> Why should anyone here have infinite patience? Each of us is struggling with our own problems, although we do try to help others as best we can.
Hi, dunno whether I've talked to you before. Small brain I got. Think I pickled it. Anyhow, I agree with this.
>
> Very few posters here are therapists or therapists-in-training. And, for legal, ethical and other reasons, those who are therapists or studying to be therapists would be well-advised NOT to attempt to "treat" people they meet online.***We are not treating. We are people in the same boat trying to help each other out. If you'll notice, the T's in training also have issues of their own and I REALLY value their input of how things can be from the other side of the fence also. And we can help them too.
>
> I've said this before, but I guess I have to say it again: We are not therapists. Dr. Bob is not our therapist and, therefore, he is not your therapist. You have to find a therapist you can see in person, closer to where you live. Psychobabble is not a therapy board. It is not a substitute for real, live therapy with a real, live therapist, which you need.***Yes I completely agree with this. Deneb needs to get herself stabilized. She was doing really well on her meds.
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> I can't find the post now, but in the last few days, someone else here (ClearSkies, perhaps?) made the decision to recuse herself from threads like this. From now on, I am going to do the same. Many of us here have tried over many months to help you in so many ways; all this, in spite of our own distress. And now, it's the same thing all over again, every other week or so. I think I would be "enabling" if I allowed myself to get enmeshed in this type of thread again.***We all seem to need to take a break from time to time. These are real people with real pain and its hard all right. I myself have just returned after a break. If something here is triggering for you, yes, you have the option of not reading or responding. We have choice.
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> I am very sorry that Larry has been blocked again while he was trying to help. He is such a great asset to this forum. He has so much to offer, and he gives so generously. And HE is the one who was blocked??? I don't understand. I will never understand.**I don't mean to upset you or diss you Sara or anything, but Deneb, if you read this, YOU ARE VALUED. So is Larry. But he got blocked because he didn't back away or was unable to, or got too involved or whatever. We all need to learn to restrain our behavior, and know when to walk away. Just like IRL. I've been blocked, pbc'd etc. Didn't like it, but now I understand. Thats why I HERE. Its relatively safe and controlled.
However I GOTO say DR. BOB if you read this, 6 weeks is an awful long time. Not sure I agree with that set in stone increasing punishments thing.
So Sarah, please don't take this wrong. I just wanted to post this in case Deneb felt bad, cuz I know she lready does.
((((Sarah)))
((((Deneb)))
Take or leave hugs.
Take care.
Muffled
Posted by Sarah T. on January 7, 2006, at 2:35:23
In reply to Deneb, Sara » Sarah T., posted by muffled on January 6, 2006, at 13:16:27
Hello there, Muffled.
Thanks very much for your message.
I agree with most of what you said. I'm not going to say too much right now because I'm very tired, and I'm still angry about this. I'm getting really sick and tired about Larry and others (like Chemist), who give so much of themselves to this forum, and then, it seems almost as if they are "set up" to be blocked. I know Larry was not set up in reality, but something similar happened a few months ago, when it seemed almost as if the other poster was tormenting him or luring him into a trap. Quite frankly, I don't think Larry did anything wrong. Perhaps his only mistake was coming back to this board, only to be beaten down again. Maybe he should stop coming back for more punishment. He'd be better off going to medical school. Then, instead of getting the s**t kicked out of him every time he tries to help someone,
eventually, he'd get some recognition and remuneration for his efforts and vast knowledge.
Posted by muffled on January 7, 2006, at 10:35:21
In reply to Re: Muffled » muffled, posted by Sarah T. on January 7, 2006, at 2:35:23
Yeah, maybe a pbc or something instead. Then length of block is distressing to me also. Sometimes I wonder if Dr. Bob really understands how it feels to be blocked? It feels like the punishment exceeds the crime by far. 'crime 'by Dr. Bobs definition as this is his website.
So there's good and bad things about blocks. I certainly think its a topic that could use some discussion amongst those more clever than I. There may be a better system?
Muffled
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