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Posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
And I have been for a while now. I can't, I can't fathom a medication change. Withdrawal, startup, side effects - (shudder).
I do overwhelmingly intuit that it's to do with my hormones. Or maybe the phase of the moon. Or both, or neither. I feel like I've been trucking my complaints to doctors for years without any improvement.
I don't like this feeling. It's too familiar.
CS
Posted by Deneb on September 5, 2006, at 21:52:06
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
You'll get through this ClearSkies. It's just a temporary setback. Remember depression usually goes away on it's own after a while. Don't forget to challenge those negative thoughts.
Deneb*
Posted by Dinah on September 5, 2006, at 22:13:27
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
I'm sorry. :(
It gets awfully discouraging after a while doesn't it?
It will be better again though.
What sort of things tend to make you feel better? Weren't you going to yoga? Are you still doing that?
((((Clearskies))))
(I'm beginning to suspect hormones for myself too. Quite lowering.)
Posted by Phillipa on September 5, 2006, at 22:25:55
In reply to Re: Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed » ClearSkies, posted by Dinah on September 5, 2006, at 22:13:27
My worst times were going through menopause. First the anxiety then depression. The synthetic hormones I couldn't take. Had them compounded at a compounding pharmacy. I think I need to forget all that now that it's over and get on with life. I'm sorry Clear Skies. But seriously keep up your routines. Love Phillipa
Posted by Alexus on September 5, 2006, at 22:51:59
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
winter is coming up too so i guess the days are getting greyer and the weather is getting colder. i think i start to feel depressed when the weather takes a turn for the worse... also... cycle / hormone related yeah. i always forget about that... but i think my moods change regular as clockwork. pre menstrual i start going AAAAAAARGH and typically mid cycle too. Dammit. Dammit dammit dammit. I think i'm mid cycle now. can you tell? i think about every two weeks i nut out a bit. :-(
((((((((clearskies)))))))))
can you do something nice?
can you go for a nice walk if there is a nice day? or... have a nice long bubblebath with some candles and a good book. or... i don't know. something nice for you. i'm sorry you are feeling sad
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why does life have to be this way?
Posted by Racer on September 6, 2006, at 1:42:39
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
Honey, I'm sorry you feel so icky. I'm glad, though, that there's a place for you where other people understand how awful it is, though... Other people, may I point out, who care about you, too.
Take care, and I hope it passes soon.
Posted by gardenergirl on September 6, 2006, at 8:08:43
In reply to Re: Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed » ClearSkies, posted by Racer on September 6, 2006, at 1:42:39
I'm sorry you're going through this. Depression really sucks in that it can come back even after we've been doing well for awhile. That in and of itself can be depressing.
You've done very good work in the last year. I know you have tools to cope with this when you can. In the meantime, take care of yourself and be easy on yourself.
You're loved, ya know.
((((CS))))
gg
Posted by gardenergirl on September 6, 2006, at 8:09:39
In reply to Re: Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by gardenergirl on September 6, 2006, at 8:08:43
And can I just say that sometimes hormones suck?
Bah. I feel for you.
gg
Posted by ClearSkies on September 6, 2006, at 8:56:53
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
Every time I think that I have to walk (or run) away from babble, I'm reminded just how much affection and support I am lucky enough to have from my friends here. It's a weepy realization, but they are good tears.
I'm continuing with my yoga and beach walking. My weight may even be starting to crawl back to normal. Compared to a snail's pace, he's sprinting along. I'm really OK with the fact that my body is aging and many of my symptoms can be attributed to my fluctuating hormone activity. Looking for some real relief is such a frustrating exercise, but I'll keep trying.
You're all really special to me, ya know? Hugs or pats on the arms to each of you.
CS
Posted by annierose on September 6, 2006, at 20:22:43
In reply to Wow. You're all lovely., posted by ClearSkies on September 6, 2006, at 8:56:53
I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling down. Remember what Buddha says, "You fall down 7 times and get up 8." Keep trying, and I know that you are working so hard in therapy too.
I got hooked on yoga this year. I find that it has helped me in my therapy and I leave the classes feeling at peace with myself and my body. (And then 10 minutes later ....) What type of yoga do you practice? My studio does vinyassa (sp?) and a slow flow/healthy back classes.
Posted by Joan797 on September 6, 2006, at 23:27:15
In reply to Wow. You're all lovely., posted by ClearSkies on September 6, 2006, at 8:56:53
I was just entering this site to ask you if you were okay, cuz I haven't heard from you in a while. Now I know. Been thinking of you a lot lately......maybe it is the moon. Anyway, I understand, and of course am where you are as well. There always seems to be setbacks don't there. Take care my friend, I'll be saying a silent thingy for you. (I hate to call them prayers since I have denouced so much of my formal religious background and have cussed the big guy a lot lately.)
Joan
Posted by ClearSkies on September 7, 2006, at 17:58:10
In reply to Re: Wow. You're all lovely., posted by annierose on September 6, 2006, at 20:22:43
> I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling down. Remember what Buddha says, "You fall down 7 times and get up 8." Keep trying, and I know that you are working so hard in therapy too.
>
My favourite yoga pose is "Laughing Baby". Lie on your back, bend your knees, and reach for your big toes with both hands. :-)> I got hooked on yoga this year. I find that it has helped me in my therapy and I leave the classes feeling at peace with myself and my body. (And then 10 minutes later ....) What type of yoga do you practice? My studio does vinyassa (sp?) and a slow flow/healthy back classes.
My yoga teacher comes to my house twice a week to teach me. I cut back on all my extraneous expenses - like haircuts, electricity and groceries - to do this. She sees how I'm feeling on the day and we take it from there. Sometimes it's mostly meditating, sometimes it's mostly holding poses for extended lengths of time, sometimes it's more Pilates and we work on my "core" (ha ha ha I can tell you it takes a lot of work!)... mostly it's a mix of all these.
I don't know what flavour of yoga it is primarily, except for my kind of flavour!
Posted by ClearSkies on September 7, 2006, at 17:58:51
In reply to Re: Wow. You're all lovely. » ClearSkies, posted by Joan797 on September 6, 2006, at 23:27:15
> I was just entering this site to ask you if you were okay, cuz I haven't heard from you in a while. Now I know. Been thinking of you a lot lately......maybe it is the moon. Anyway, I understand, and of course am where you are as well. There always seems to be setbacks don't there. Take care my friend, I'll be saying a silent thingy for you. (I hate to call them prayers since I have denouced so much of my formal religious background and have cussed the big guy a lot lately.)
>
> JoanI miss you. Thanks for posting!
Posted by dreamboat_annie on September 7, 2006, at 22:16:03
In reply to Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by ClearSkies on September 5, 2006, at 20:25:02
Hi,
I don't know how old you are, but I started experiencing depression and anxiety in the past 2 years (although I did have one depressive episode about 10 years ago), at the same time as my cylce started becoming irregular and I started having nightsweats and stuff. After four or five ADs that weren't much help at all, I finally convinced my pdoc that it was time to let me try bio-identical estrogen with some bio-identical progesterone (no synthetic stuff like Premarin or Provera). At first, he tried to convince me to go on the pill, but I have had bad reactions to bc in the past (depression, mood swings, weight gain, nauseau . . .), so I refused. Plus, although not the case for everyone, I have read that some women do experience depression from bc and that it can sometimes make symptoms worse if a women is in perimenopause. I did a lot of research, which I discussed with my pdoc, and he does recognize the benefits of HRT (he mentioned that estrogen is neuroprotective and helps with memory and other cognitive things as well), and so he agreed that it would be worth a try, based on my symptoms not on blood tests. Anyway, I have the prescription, but, I have to quit smoking before I can start. I have read a number of articles and studies that indicate that women who are in a perimenopausal state and who experience onset of depression/anxiety or a worsening of depression/anxiety may benefit from a trial of HRT. A friend of mine is bipolar and, in the past few years, has been experiencing a worsening of her depressions, mood swings and anxiety, and recently started bio-identical estrogen. Within a week, she noticed a difference (as did her husband). She feels calmer and more stable. Anyway, just thought I would share that. I am looking forward to starting my bio-identicals.
> And I have been for a while now. I can't, I can't fathom a medication change. Withdrawal, startup, side effects - (shudder).
>
> I do overwhelmingly intuit that it's to do with my hormones. Or maybe the phase of the moon. Or both, or neither. I feel like I've been trucking my complaints to doctors for years without any improvement.
>
> I don't like this feeling. It's too familiar.
> CS
Posted by ClearSkies on September 7, 2006, at 22:23:24
In reply to Re: Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed, posted by dreamboat_annie on September 7, 2006, at 22:16:03
Hi, I'm 43 and I want to ask my doctor- whomever they end up to be - about what is the healthest route to relieve my symtoms. I take Cymbalta for depression and Lamictal for mood stabilization. And Evening Primrose Oil and a multivitamin with extra B complex. That one smells of vitamins, you know?
I'm going to go to my original doctor and see what the recommended treatment is before I decide to look for another doc.
THanks, Dreamboat_annie
Posted by dreamboat_annie on September 7, 2006, at 22:48:41
In reply to Re: Don't want to admit it, but I'm depressed » dreamboat_annie, posted by ClearSkies on September 7, 2006, at 22:23:24
You're welcome. There is an very good forum/discussion board on the subject and for women to share their experiences, etc. If you are interested, it is http://www.power-surge.com/php/forums. Anyway, good luck to you. I hope you and your doctor find something that will help.
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