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Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 0:51:30
Some bad things are happening on a Usenet group I belong to and I'm getting so upset, I even thought of killing myself.
I think, "that will show them." Is my thinking screwed up or what?
I think if I killed myself, that will be proof I wasn't a troll.
I'm so very upset. Cognitive therapy isn't working right now. Nothing I'm thinking makes rational sense.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:11:52
In reply to I'm really upset, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 0:51:30
Just being on Babble helps. I should stay away from Usenet.
I have to soothe myself. I'm going to think of school, of Babble friends and Dr. Bob.
:-(
I'm starting to think now that Babble friends don't care about me. :-(
:-(
:-(
:-(Deneb*
Posted by Estella on September 11, 2006, at 1:31:01
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:11:52
I went to usenet once
I found I'd been there once too many times ;-)(((Deneb)))
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:44:15
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now » Deneb, posted by Estella on September 11, 2006, at 1:31:01
(((((((Estella)))))))
Thanks for the hug, that showed me you care. Sometimes I really need to see that. Sometimes my thoughts don't make sense.
Deneb*
Posted by finelinebob on September 11, 2006, at 1:55:01
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:11:52
> Just being on Babble helps. I should stay away from Usenet.
Definitely. Usenet is so ... so ... 1979.
I mean, even Matt's Script Archive (where Babbleland's code originally came from, tho Dr. B has made dozens of changes) is so 1995. Maybe even 1994.
I'm so glad Babble hasn't been ported to some phpBoardclone. It has a WWW old-fashionedness that is oddly comforting in and of itself.
Posted by rainbutterfly on September 11, 2006, at 4:10:18
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:11:52
I care - Glad you are feeling a bit better!
I don't think many here care about me though.
whine, yeah isn't it great being able to whine without being flamed!!!
Not saying you are whinging, I am the whinger and all things bad
I claim it!!!take care
butterfly
Posted by ClearSkies on September 11, 2006, at 8:16:36
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now » Estella, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 1:44:15
(((Deneb))) it took me a long time to accept that there are places where I feel safest and the most "belonging to". And other places just aren't for me.
CS
Posted by tizza on September 11, 2006, at 9:01:35
In reply to I'm really upset, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 0:51:30
hey deneb have you had a chance to look into a work experiene placement in reguards to your studies yet?? Maybe that might help you clear your mind. Paul
Posted by Racer on September 11, 2006, at 10:01:35
In reply to I'm really upset, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 0:51:30
OK, can you point out the good things you've learned from this incident?
1. You recognize that you've fallen into an old pattern.
2. You recognize the distortion in your thinking.
3. You recognize that the CBT skills you're trying to learn aren't working for you right now.
4. You recognize that there are better places for you to be, places where you feel safer.
5. You came to Babble to help feel safer again -- that's part of self-soothing, you know, so we'll call that a positive.
OK, now come a little closer so I can {smack} you again! You know that joke, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this/So don't do this!" Guess what? "Fellow Babblers, I get upset when I go to this Usenet group..." Extrapolate.
Can you identify what it is that leads you to feel you have to prove you're not a troll? Might be worth the effort.
My guess, without having any clue where this group is, is that maybe someone there remembers early posts of yours, before you made so much progress, and any accusations of trolling are based on those older posts, not something current. If that's the case, then recognize the fallacy in someone else's thinking, too.
Now go study.
Posted by Phillipa on September 11, 2006, at 11:41:38
In reply to {smack} Got your attention? » Deneb, posted by Racer on September 11, 2006, at 10:01:35
Deneb how is school are you liking it? Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 19:40:59
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now, posted by rainbutterfly on September 11, 2006, at 4:10:18
I care too. ((((((((((rainbutterfly)))))))))))
Please don't put yourself down. I often write about what is upsetting me.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 19:43:57
In reply to Re: I'm feeling a bit better now » Deneb, posted by ClearSkies on September 11, 2006, at 8:16:36
(((((((ClearSkies)))))))))
I have this problem of wanting everyone to like me. I have to accept that not everyone will.
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 19:45:10
In reply to Re: I'm really upset » Deneb, posted by tizza on September 11, 2006, at 9:01:35
> hey deneb have you had a chance to look into a work experiene placement in reguards to your studies yet?? Maybe that might help you clear your mind. Paul
No, I haven't done that yet. I keep procrastinating.
Thanks Paul
Deneb*
Posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 19:53:30
In reply to {smack} Got your attention? » Deneb, posted by Racer on September 11, 2006, at 10:01:35
I did do better this time around, didn't I? I recognized my thought distortions. I just have to practice replacing them with rational thoughts.
> OK, now come a little closer so I can {smack} you again! You know that joke, "Doctor, it hurts when I do this/So don't do this!" Guess what? "Fellow Babblers, I get upset when I go to this Usenet group..." Extrapolate.
LOL, thanks for the smack. I needed that.
>
> Can you identify what it is that leads you to feel you have to prove you're not a troll? Might be worth the effort.I'm not sure what it is. I just have this need to clear my name.
>
> My guess, without having any clue where this group is, is that maybe someone there remembers early posts of yours, before you made so much progress, and any accusations of trolling are based on those older posts, not something current. If that's the case, then recognize the fallacy in someone else's thinking, too.To be fair, I think I see how I might have been annoying other people. People were being very supportive at first and gave me lots of advice, but I didn't follow that advice so they all got frustrated. I don't think everyone there thinks I'm a troll, but I do know that I upset a lot of people. I know though, that *I* cannot upset another person. Only that person can upset themselves. It's the same for me. Other people don't make me upset, being upset is my own reaction to my own thoughts. Other people don't know this, so they all think I made them frustrated.
>
> Now go study.I will. :-)
Deneb*
Posted by Maximus on September 12, 2006, at 12:35:45
In reply to I'm really upset, posted by Deneb on September 11, 2006, at 0:51:30
Hi Deneb,
Usenet is the real world. It is often wild and uncivil. But i like the way it is, because they tend to employ the right words for the true things, straight to the point. We've got to be strong and balanced to enjoy this place without fear or anger.
But it could be a trigger for some, as you learned it recently. Better to stay here for a while and relax.
Be well.
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