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Posted by Jay on November 4, 2006, at 13:58:28
It's kinda weird....I live with the fact that everyday, every second, I (and most of us on here) live with anxiety and depression. Often, or sometimes, depends, it goes into "remission", like cancer. It will stay with me until the moment I take my last breath. I hope that will be the end of it!(A kidding, in a Woody Allen sorta way..lol..! Imagine going to wherever..heaven...and having to take your meds with you!!..hahaa.) ) And no, please, that is NOT about a *solution*. I mean your natural end-of-life death.
The thing is, and I am not trying to "romanticize" depression, but all of these so-called "normal" people, who don't take meds and act like they are all the "glass is half full" types, seem shallow, and if you look close enough, you CAN see they are really miserable at times! Whether it be friends, relatives, dates...etc. Often, they are obsessed with living :healthy", like one former person I was dating didn't have a t.v., because she said it was to depressing and boring to watch "anything". One former friend, who was a real "*&%$*, and told me he couldn't hang around me because I was TOO depressed, told me he gets three-four hours of sleep at night, and wakes up feeling like hell. He had a vasectomy because he said the world was too cruel and ugly to bring children into. He said he was "depressed", but "..like 'good normal' people...would 'tough' it out". Ya, whatever! His 'better' days seemed like one of my 'worst' days. So, I bring up him seeking professional help, and he just dismisses it, making generalizations like.."I know so-and-so who is on meds, and they are just in an awful position".
I post to the board both, when I am doing well, and when I am lost in the dark. But unlike many of these people mentioned above, my good days are *good*, and I cherish them and relish them like no-other. Instead, they put up with 'half-*ssed' lives, with some vague notion of what happiness is I've never met people who more appreciated life (and cursed it at times too) then those of us with mental illness, who are at least *trying* in whatever way, to seek help, and grasp for hope.
/rant
Jay
Posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 14:29:56
In reply to Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Jay on November 4, 2006, at 13:58:28
Sorry Jay, I can't answer because I can't stop lover laughing at that first paragraph.
Thanks for that
It's kinda weird....I live with the fact that everyday, every second, I (and most of us on here) live with anxiety and depression. Often, or sometimes, depends, it goes into "remission", like cancer. It will stay with me until the moment I take my last breath. I hope that will be the end of it!(A kidding, in a Woody Allen sorta way..lol..! Imagine going to wherever..heaven...and having to take your meds with you!!..hahaa.) ) And no, please, that is NOT about a *solution*. I mean your natural end-of-life death.
Posted by Phil on November 4, 2006, at 15:19:21
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?) » Jay, posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 14:29:56
Posted by LJRen on November 4, 2006, at 16:19:00
In reply to Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Jay on November 4, 2006, at 13:58:28
What's stranger still is how I wish I could get those kind of people, at least the ones I consider my friends, to understand where I'm coming from. How I wish I could explain myself sufficiently enough for them to get inside my head and see the world as I see it. It's silly I know b/c I realize noone could ever get in my head or see through my eyes. But it sure as hell would make the world a lot less lonely place if they could.
Ren
Posted by sunnydays on November 4, 2006, at 16:36:28
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think » Jay, posted by LJRen on November 4, 2006, at 16:19:00
I second that.
sunnydays
Posted by madeline on November 4, 2006, at 17:00:38
In reply to Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Jay on November 4, 2006, at 13:58:28
"...I've never met people who more appreciated life (and cursed it at times too) then those of us with mental illness, who are at least *trying* in whatever way, to seek help, and grasp for hope."
Amen to that. Amen to that...
I do plan to be buried with my prozac - just in case. :)
Maddie
Posted by Phillipa on November 4, 2006, at 17:40:16
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?) » Jay, posted by madeline on November 4, 2006, at 17:00:38
Silly don't you know you're supposed to pull yourself up by your bootstraps what ever they are. No one one knows what it's like till they walk in your shoes. Love Phillipa
Posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 18:21:55
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Phillipa on November 4, 2006, at 17:40:16
*snort*
My sister used to tell me that, well not "exactly" I think she said something Like "Grow up" "learn to appreciate what you have"
People don't seem to grasp that the worst and scariest part about depression (for me anyway )is knowing that you have good things in your life, but not being able to feel any of them.
Guess who's on antidepressants now? Guess who the first person she called was?
Posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 18:25:32
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?) » Phillipa, posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 18:21:55
Sorry I'm on a rant.
another thing I *HATE* is when people think you do it for attention, when the fact is, I think few things drive people away faster than someone being chronically depressed, especially when they think their presence should be able to fix it, and they get angry when it doesn't.
Posted by Phillipa on November 4, 2006, at 20:10:10
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 18:25:32
Oh boy is that the truth. Love Phillipa so how's sissy doing on her med?
Posted by Gabbi~G on November 4, 2006, at 20:33:33
In reply to Re: Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?) » Gabbi~G, posted by Phillipa on November 4, 2006, at 20:10:10
She's doing okay she said, she's on Remeron.
That was a disaster for me, but she says she feels a lot better. I haven't told her about the weight gain that's likely to happen from it.
She's in school, she has enough to worry about right now.
Posted by ClearSkies on November 4, 2006, at 22:53:18
In reply to Others who judge us.what do you folks think(trig?), posted by Jay on November 4, 2006, at 13:58:28
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> /rant
> JayYou aren't kidding, Jay! There is so much strong feeling that you speak of, and your opinions you have shared with us here (some of which are very negatively expressed). As someone who isolates severely IRL, I have much less interaction with those whom you refer to as "Normals". I have yet to find ones who, as you say, are actually depressed or experiencing anxiety, without putting a name to these behaviours, as we who dwell in babble land, have.
I call these folks "in denial" of their conditions. Or maybe, and I think this is closer to what is happening, they are going through the same stressors and triggers that we do, but maybe have been able to cope and gone on beyond the pain, as if they knew that a crappy day will probably be followed by a better day.Just my return rant.
I hope I have not offended you or any others with my take on things.ClearSKies
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