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Posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 18:51:41
I am reading the archives and I finally got to the parts where I am posting and wow, I was very very bad back then. My god, the Risperdal helps me a lot. I can clearly see a pattern there.
I'm so sorry I kept rejecting help. And I got Larry blocked. He was just trying to help me.
Anyways, I've been good for a long time, no bad thoughts, until recently and I think I know the main reason now. I was skipping my meds some days because of my erratic sleep schedule.
I'm OK again, no bad thoughts.
Wow, what does this mean? I thought BPD was mostly psychological. Why does the Risperdal help so much?
Does this mean I need to be on it forever?
Posted by SLS on July 7, 2009, at 20:07:37
In reply to Wow, I was very bad in the past **so sorry**, posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 18:51:41
BPD has been the focus of increased research lately. It does seem that there is a biological component to BPD. It makes sense to treat the biological and the psychological at the same time. I know one young woman who did well with Zyprexa and CBT. Zyprexa is a drug very similar to Risperdal. She is doing wonderfully.
- Scott
Posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 23:18:51
In reply to Re: Wow, I was very bad in the past **so sorry** » Deneb, posted by SLS on July 7, 2009, at 20:07:37
I think my family would greatly disapprove of the meds I take, especially the Risperdal. My Mom thinks I should go off my meds. I think maybe I should try tapering after I get my degree and after I am settled in a good job. I need to be at a stable stage in my life first.
So far all attempts to taper have failed. I just get in a bad way again. I hope it will work once I am at a stable place in my life.
Posted by Phillipa on July 7, 2009, at 23:40:14
In reply to My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 23:18:51
Deneb I bet your family would be more upset to see you unstable. So please don't go off your meds and remember your assignment looking for a job. Love Phillipa
Posted by Deneb on July 8, 2009, at 13:17:23
In reply to Re: Wow, I was very bad in the past **so sorry** » Deneb, posted by SLS on July 7, 2009, at 20:07:37
My pdoc basically told me my primary dx is not BPD, it's social anxiety disorder. She says it is biological. I think she focuses mainly on the social anxiety disorder.
Online my borderline tendencies come out more because of the online disinhibition effect, but really my main problem is social anxiety.
That is the first thing you notice about me if you met me in real life, how quiet and anxious I am.
I think the Risperdal calms my anxiety and helps my depressive thoughts.
Posted by SLS on July 8, 2009, at 13:47:22
In reply to My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 23:18:51
> I think my family would greatly disapprove of the meds I take, especially the Risperdal. My Mom thinks I should go off my meds. I think maybe I should try tapering after I get my degree and after I am settled in a good job. I need to be at a stable stage in my life first.
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> So far all attempts to taper have failed. I just get in a bad way again. I hope it will work once I am at a stable place in my life.
I understand what you are saying about the behavioral disinhibition. Still, you might want to get a second medical opinion for diagnostic purposes and to discuss how best to treat you now and in the future.
- Scott
Posted by Timne on July 10, 2009, at 0:28:56
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by SLS on July 8, 2009, at 13:47:22
My family doesn't want me on meds either. I trust my family's advice.
Posted by SLS on July 10, 2009, at 5:58:35
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by Timne on July 10, 2009, at 0:28:56
> My family doesn't want me on meds either. I trust my family's advice.
I think family can offer wonderful feedback based upon what they see. However, I question whether every family has the information and understanding sufficient to propose a course of medical action.
- Scott
Posted by Timne on July 10, 2009, at 10:46:34
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by SLS on July 10, 2009, at 5:58:35
> > My family doesn't want me on meds either. I trust my family's advice.
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> I think family can offer wonderful feedback based upon what they see. However, I question whether every family has the information and understanding sufficient to propose a course of medical action.
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> - Scott
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I have similar concerns about merchants who sell medical services, albeit unlike families, the merchants offer advise under licenses and regulatory procedures established by legislatures where campaign contributions are most heavily weighted from pharmaceutical companies, and from their parent companies -- fertilizer manufacturers who expanded into explosives and pharmaceutical industries during the past century's world-wide wars.
Posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 19:24:36
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by Timne on July 10, 2009, at 10:46:34
>I have similar concerns about merchants who sell medical services, albeit unlike families, the merchants offer advise under licenses and regulatory procedures established by legislatures where campaign contributions are most heavily weighted from pharmaceutical companies, and from their parent companies -- fertilizer manufacturers who expanded into explosives and pharmaceutical industries during the past century's world-wide wars.
I'm going to miss you.
Posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 19:31:09
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds » Timne, posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 19:24:36
>fertilizer manufacturers who expanded into explosives and pharmaceutical industries
Not to speak of that good old amphetamine that kept the soldiers awake during the war and society high for two decades thereafter.
Posted by gobbledygook on July 10, 2009, at 20:28:00
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds » Timne, posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 19:24:36
> >I have similar concerns about merchants who sell medical services, albeit unlike families, the merchants offer advise under licenses and regulatory procedures established by legislatures where campaign contributions are most heavily weighted from pharmaceutical companies, and from their parent companies -- fertilizer manufacturers who expanded into explosives and pharmaceutical industries during the past century's world-wide wars.
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> I'm going to miss you.(Sigismund)
Brilliant mind. Dazzling.
I hear Largo Ma Non Tanto, second movement of Bach's double violin concerto in D minor...
Ava
Posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 22:46:19
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds » Sigismund, posted by gobbledygook on July 10, 2009, at 20:28:00
You never get sick of Bach, do you?
As I recall (maybe wrongly) that second movement is a fugue, but if so I have failed to grasp how it works, which is not surprising as fugues are kinda difficult.
In my car I have a version of the B minor Mass with a really politically incorrect version by Otto Klemperer (brother of Werner who played Colonel Klink in Hogan's Heroes, and a sufferer of bipolar illness) so big, so slow and massively articulated. Et Expecto is really moving and the Sanctus makes my hair stand on end, like being taken onto another planet. Et expecto (And I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come, and you think of all the people and all the terror of death forever, and you think O you poor bastards).
Posted by gobbledygook on July 11, 2009, at 20:57:39
In reply to Re: My family doesn't want me on meds » gobbledygook, posted by Sigismund on July 10, 2009, at 22:46:19
> You never get sick of Bach, do you?
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> As I recall (maybe wrongly) that second movement is a fugue, but if so I have failed to grasp how it works, which is not surprising as fugues are kinda difficult.
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> In my car I have a version of the B minor Mass with a really politically incorrect version by Otto Klemperer (brother of Werner who played Colonel Klink in Hogan's Heroes, and a sufferer of bipolar illness) so big, so slow and massively articulated. Et Expecto is really moving and the Sanctus makes my hair stand on end, like being taken onto another planet. Et expecto (And I look for the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come, and you think of all the people and all the terror of death forever, and you think O you poor bastards).
**************************************************************************************************************************************************Hi Sigismund,
No, I could never get sick of Bach. Brilliant, honest, and humorous at times. I'm left elated and inspired with every listen.
Imagine having dinner and wine with someone like Bach...like chocolate for the mind (if chocolate is your cup of tea).The structure of the Double Violin Concerto in D minor is based on the fugue, and is a masterpiece. The dialogue between
the two violins in the second movement is expressive and moving...always leaving me in tears in the end.Dissssmissed!! I had no idea the bumbling and moronic Colonel Klink was the son of Otto Klemperer (and bipolar?)...makes
sense now as I recall that he was an accomplished musician/singer. He played the incompetent fool well in Hogan's Heroes.
Remember Schultz? I hear nothing, I know nothing, I see nothing, nothing! Very funny.Having read your "hair standing on end" thumbs up review, I will have to get Klemperer's interpretation of the B minor Mass.
I would very much like to be taken onto another planet as I'm in dire need of it. Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum...and
I will be full of joy and glory when they come. Curiously, B Mass brings Black Mass to my mind which then brings Stillman and
Pfaff to my mind, which then brings Dostoyevsky Ch17pg197 and Ch19pg230 to my mind. My mind works in chains.
Et exspecto resurrectionem mortuorum.Ava
Posted by gobbledygook on July 11, 2009, at 21:04:41
In reply to My family doesn't want me on meds, posted by Deneb on July 7, 2009, at 23:18:51
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