Posted by paulbwell on July 14, 2004, at 3:05:11
In reply to Re: MORPHINE-AND DEVERITIVES-RULE IN DEPRESSION, posted by 1980Monroe on July 13, 2004, at 19:24:28
> Hopefully they will comeout with better things than pesty SSRI's.
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> Anyways, my aunt actually takes hydromorphone for her extreme migraines, she's been on EVERYTHING there is on the market, even sedatives since 1991, sometimes there so bad she has to have a cocktail anastheics injected at the hostpital because she faints there soo bad. But anyways......
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> I think Ultram is given for depression but it dont belive its an opiate narcotic, its a pain relever with antidperessant properties that effect serotonin.
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> well, if i was a drug company, I would only allow a low potency opiate for depression to keep the abuse low, morphine is understandable i see in your point of view becuase of the well-being feeling it produces, but tolerance would climb, and the infamous abuse could easily take place.
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> They need to bring more medications as potent as Paranate back in the game. Hopefully the SSRI's will be forgotten someday, and will have Parnate-like antidepressants back in action.
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> Cheers,
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> MattHi ya Matt
So your Aunt takes the infamous 'drug store heroin)(Elvises) favourite pharmy. Does she only receive a shot in the ER, in a crisis situation? or does she have a take home supply of 2, 4, 8 mg pills? to self administer?
Ultram has 1/6000 the potency of Morphine on the feel good MU opiod brain receptor, and more action on serotonin, norp, recepters. I remember trying 100mgs of it, and having a speedy , statring-up-an-ssri type feeling, not the lovely, dreamy, sedated, nothing matters, feeling of poppy juice products. Hence its big selling point-LOW ADDICTION POTENTIAL
Concerning Hydromorphine (DILAUDID)in Elvises words "i'v tried em all and its the best" and this from some who swallowed! their pills-in his case lots of pills, imagine the effects of more efficient ways of administering Hydro? mmmmmmm
PS-- tolerance to morphine doesn't always climb, many people have taken the same dose of Morphine for years- while taking an NMDA antaganast at the same time, such as Dextromethorphan in equal mgs
Cheers Matt
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