Posted by Dr. Bob on July 23, 2010, at 2:58:17
In reply to Re: Ratings, posted by Dinah on July 22, 2010, at 15:02:51
> Thank you doesn't work now?
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> fayeroeI think thank-yous do work, and appreciate them myself. However, as Deneb said:
> > Sometimes the person asking the question doesn't have the time or energy to reply to every helpful post so maybe being able to pick a best answer would be an easier way for them to say, "thank you".
> > You can look at all the points you have and think, wow, I've helped a lot of people! Then you feel good about yourself.
It would be easier for others to see how helpful you've been, too.
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> I was referring to a phenomenon where people who presumably have contempt for reality television vote for the singer they think the producers would least like to win. ... If enough people were upset with the point system here, they might vote for posts that they think you would find most unsupportive and withhold votes for post they actually viewed as supportive.
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> I have to admit that I'd be curious about how people would vote posts on this topic. Regarding your suggestion of a point system, would a post critical of this plan be viewed as supportive of the community or unsupportive?
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> Toph> How do you control for:
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> 1) subversion - people who hate this idea so much they will rate really unhelpful posts super high, etc. They will SWEAR that post helped them.
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> 2) vendeta - let's say I detest poster Boogerienose. Everything she posts, I plan to rate as low as possible. (And how does I explain negative votes, if that's required within civility guidlines?)
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> 3) moodiness - so, what if my version of bipolar has angry mania. I spend 3 days saying every post sucks. Or my Borderline PD causes such highs and lows, my opinion changes thoughout the day. I HATE that post. I LOVE that post.
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> How useful will any of that feed be to the poster or the community?
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> BayLeafI suppose if people wanted, they could reward the posters they thought were unhelpful, or thought I thought were unhelpful. They might then get more replies from those posters in their threads.
You're keeping in mind that it's the poster who starts the thread that gets to award the points, right? So in this case that would be Deneb. Also, there wouldn't be "low ratings" or "negative votes". We're 180 posts into this, people are already opting out, and there still seem to be misunderstandings about what's been proposed!
I guess moodiness might lead to rewarding others inconsistently.
If posters wanted to be useful, they could use the system in useful ways. If they didn't, they could use it in other ways. Or just not use it.
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> it will/ is becoming more of a factual resource than a community. ... That he is still even considering the "rating" system tells me what kind of posters he wants. I'm opting out before I get voted out!
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> ~JadeSome people may feel more comfortable posting facts than experiences on a public board. The point system would reward helpful posting. That's the kind of posting I want. The idea that people would be voted out may reflect the Faceful of Cat Effect.
It's interesting that a reward system has come to be seen by some as a rating system.
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> Now, if Dr. Bob really wants to give points, it might be a good idea to limit posting on the Admin board to those who have posted 20 on topic and civil posts on boards other than Admin in the past month. Perhaps he could even make that to include at least five civil responses to people outside their core group.
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> Admin could be limited to just those people who actively use Babble. It would seem that posting on Admin would be quite an incentive, since that seems to be one of the more lively boards.
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> There would be no judgment involved. Just a computer count of posts, with deductions for posts deemed uncivil and posts that are administrative in nature but posted on other boards.
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> DinahI suppose I could give points, too. They could be in a separate category. As I said before, there might be other ways to be rewarded. I could see giving points for:
* on-topic and civil posts
* responses to people outside of one's core group
* active useHow would we define someone's "core group"? That's an interesting concept.
I appreciate the idea of framing posting here as a privilege, but I see Admin as the politics of Babble and wonder if posting here might be kind of like voting and should therefore be seen more as a right.
Bob
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