Posted by Larry Hoover on November 30, 2003, at 7:32:05
In reply to Re: Lecithin capsuls vs granules » Larry Hoover, posted by JLx on November 29, 2003, at 17:59:44
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> > > What about the capsules, are they inferior? I find them more convenient as I don't eat salad, cereal or vegetables. ;)
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> > What on Earth do you eat, then? Supplements are no substitute for e.g. veggies.
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> I eat a few veggies, just not the very healthy, i.e. green ones. I find them so unpalatable if I were out in the wild I would assume they were poison. ;) I think I may be one of those "supertasters" as lots of stuff, like veggies, coffee, beer, taste very unpleasantly bitter to me.I'm sorry, sarcastic teasing doesn't often survive the journey through the Internet relay servers.
The supertaster problem is very real. I sympathize with you. It may be a stretch, but cream sauces might help. For example, milk or cream added to coffee preferentially binds bitter components....in effect sweetening the brew without sugar. It may help with the veggies, though you'd have to watch the calories. There are also green veggie concentrates available, such as Greens+. I have no idea what they're like, but you would get a good dose of the "missing" phytochemicals.
> > The capsules may or may not be equivalent. The word lecithin has both a specific and generic meaning, unfortunately. Some mean it to refer to phosphatidylcholine. Some mean it to refer to phospholipids more generally. And some mean it to refer to "the gunk that's left when soybean oil is refined".
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> Ok, I will get some granules as my capsules are almost gone now anyway.
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> > It has a very mild flavour, something like a cashew....(I'm trying to find an analogy...I know each food tastes unique). Just smell the product before you buy it. It should not smell stale. I buy mine at a bulk/health food store, and it is amazingly inexpensive.
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> > You don't need to think of it as a veggie. It won't detract from your (un)healthy diet. ;-)
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> Hey, now, aside from the veggie deficit, my diet is quite healthy. :)I'm sure it is....just checking. ;-)
> > > How many grams are required as a minimum?
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> > If fish oil has an effect, then this stuff should too. I don't mean that to imply that only those who respond to fish oil may benefit from lecithin. Fish oil and phospholipids work together. It takes both a phospholipid molecule and omega-3 fatty acids together (and other stuff), to make one neuron membrane molecule.
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> > Dose is variable, as with fish oil. It won't hurt you. There is no upper dose limit.
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> Ok, great. I will definitely try it then. I think the fish oil is helpful, as I started feeling a bit better in some can't-put-my-finger-on-it way after I was taking it about 3-4 weeks.Ya, that's a valid way to describe the fish oil effect. I also get something like that from lecithin.
> > > And are there any people/conditions/predilictions when lecithin is not advised?
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> > If you had one of those conditions, you would know about it (if you were still alive).
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> Ok, I guess I was still thinking about that choline business per Dr. Walsh. (Choline contraindicated for the undermethylated.)Choline is in every meal you eat....restricting intake of a core nutrient is just not feasible. Sometimes those doctors just don't think.
> > NB: Lecithin capsules, if they contain an oily liquid, almost certainly are purified phosphatidylcholine. While that is beneficial, there are three other phospholipids to consider. Soya lecithin has PC, and two others, but contains nearly no phosphatidylserine. It may be more important than the other three, altogether. Some believe that PS has modulatory activity, akin to hormones/neurotransmitters. Unfortunately, there is no natural source that supplies PS in high concentration, so the only alternative is to buy a synthetic, and it is expensive, relative to the others.
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> Yeah, I know that that stuff is really pricey. I did try it once before years ago, and didn't notice any difference taking it.
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> Thanks,
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> JLI can feel the effect of PS in minutes. I guess we're all different.
Lar
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