Posted by fires on June 21, 2004, at 21:30:53
In reply to Re: My experiences with therapy, posted by lucy stone on June 21, 2004, at 20:22:38
> I think very few reputable Ts would treat a severe depression with only talk therapy.<
There are still some around. I don't think they are ethical though.
> I wouldn't let a resident treat me physical illness and I wouldn't go to a resident for therapy. Some people have no choice for monetary reasons and have to rely on resident but it isn't ideal.<
My current PDoc is a resident and I pay good money to see her. She's been good and is highly supervised.
> This is her opinion. The vast majority of Ts know that the different types of therapy are good for different problems and/or different patients. There are many different kinds of therapy just like there are many different kinds of medication. It's not one size fits all.<
Actually it was a he. There aren't nearly as many kinds of meds as there are PTs. There are so many PTS that a list, if possible to compile , would stretch from here to ?
> Why would you be leary of a T who couldn't predict how long therapy would take? How can anyone know this in advance. I am assuming the person who was told that her problems would take years to resolve was a adult. If it took her her entire life to get to where she was, why should she expect to solve her problems in a short period of time. Why shouldn't you expect deep and long lasting changes in the way you think to take a long time? Also, why is long term therapy bad? If it continues to improve the life of the client and if the client has the resources and time it's hard for me to see why this would be a negative.<Because relatively short term therapies are the only ones demonstrated to help Dep. Psychoanalysis has never been shown to help any condition, with the exception of the therapists bank account.
> My T lets me whine, bitch, or blame if that's what I need to do at the time. Then, we talk about why I need to act that way and what I think it will get me. It's a better way to change behavior that not "tolerating" it. I'm not a special education child and don't expect to be treated like one.>I suppose that's OK as long as you restrict that behavior to his office. I've noticed a lot of such behavior demonstrated on the web, and the people say they are in therapy. If one can't take the lessons learned in therapy and apply them to one's daily life, what good are they?
> Sorry, don't buy this one. Going deeply into your thought processes can make you feel worse, but ultimately can make you feel better. Why should therapy only make you feel better? If you experiencing suicidal ideation your T should know that and and can help you, probabley including sending you to a pdoc for medication.>Why would going deeply into one's thought processes make you feel worse? CBT teaches that you are what you chose to believe about yourself. A given thought only carries the emotion that you wish to apply to it. Example: If someone puts me down I can get angry at him, or I can chose to think that the guy must be disturbed if he has to put me down; therefore I would feel sorry for him.
> Define "overly dependent." Being dependent on a person who you care about and trust is very healing. A good T know how to deal with dependence.>
Like making frequent phone calls between visits, or stretching therapy out when you really don't need any more. Or having to consult your T before making even minor life decisions, etc...
> I accidentily deleted the name of the book you recommended, but I recall that it was published in the mid 1980s. Psychological thinking has changed a lot in the last 20 years. I wouldn't rely on 20 year old information on physical or psychological health. The current thinking is that a combination of medication and talk therapy is most helpful for depression.
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It was first published in 1986. It still has info. that is accurate to this day. In many ways PT has actually gotten worse since then: examples such as rebirthing therapy, Recovered memory therapy, and MPD (dissociative disorder) therapy have become quite the "in style" therapies, but they are HIGHLY questionable, if not outright frauds, as my links have demonstrated.Many of "us" foresaw this happening and it will probably continue as more of the biology of mental illness is understood, i.e., psychologists just won't disappear , they will find new disorders to treat. Oh, I left out hypnosis (regression type)/past lives therapy, and Jungian stuff that still surfaces every so often, etc...
Thank you
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