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Posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 21:56:57
that's with a long i right?
i hate to obsess about something with improper pronunciation.
Posted by Mair on May 25, 2002, at 22:39:58
In reply to suicidal ideation, posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 21:56:57
Dinah
SuicIdal Ideation for me usually means just getting fixated on an idea or an image. It's very confusing to me, because on the one hand it all seems so clearly the right thing to do, but there's always this other voice reminding me that I don't always feel this way, and that really throws me off - that something can be so clear and so convoluted all at the same time. (I'm sure this is making no sense) I do know that I totally lose perspective because of the fixating part of it - I filter out the positive and don't seem to have the same ability to be comfortable (at ease?) with life's layers - everything (except the suicidal thoughts) just seems too complex and overwelming.
I read back over this and it looks like it is something I might have written in college after a few too many joints and definitely no sleep. All I've been doing tonight is chaperoning a party of about 30 13 and 14 year olds - mercifully at someone else's house. My only overindulgence being too much coca cola.
I don't mean to be so obtuse - I guess I just want you to remind you that suicidal thinking does have an obsessive myopic quality to it, and if you can at least accept that it is a limited way of thinking, maybe it won't seem so real, or at least so permanent.
Mair (overly obtuse probably because my brain has been fried from watching too many teenagers at play)
Posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 23:03:10
In reply to Re: suicidal ideation » dinah 2, posted by Mair on May 25, 2002, at 22:39:58
Hi mair,
I'll think about your reply. Right now, my brain is whirling with thoughts of philosophy and will and whether this world is worth living in and the obligation to continue living and pain and loneliness. And pain and pain and pain.
But it's really bugging me that the words "suicidal ideation" have been playing over and over in my head for days and I have a strong suspicion I'm mispronouncing them. I did an internet dictionary search and found a pronunciation guide for ideate, but not ideation. Moreover, I don't quite trust my eyes and would rather hear the pronunciation. But I'd settle for making sure it's a long i as opposed to a short one.
However, I want to make clear that I have an agreement with my therapist re. suicide and that I feel an obligation to my family not to undertake it lightly.
I just want to be able to discuss it with my therapist without worrying about pronunciation.
Posted by Zo on May 26, 2002, at 1:01:19
In reply to Re: suicidal ideation » Mair, posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 23:03:10
Posted by dinah 2 on May 26, 2002, at 6:50:57
In reply to Re: i de A tion ; (nm) » dinah 2, posted by Zo on May 26, 2002, at 1:01:19
Posted by mair on May 26, 2002, at 10:58:50
In reply to Re: Thank you. long i I presume (nm) » Zo, posted by dinah 2 on May 26, 2002, at 6:50:57
Sorry Dinah - I guess I misconstrued your message. For what it's worth, I think it's a long "i". I pronounce it that way as I think does my therapist. (I'm pretty sure it's a phrase she's used, and I'd have noticed if she pronounced it differently from me - I'm very attuned to things like that).
Mair
Posted by Zo on May 26, 2002, at 15:06:17
In reply to Re: Thank you. long i I presume (nm) » Zo, posted by dinah 2 on May 26, 2002, at 6:50:57
Posted by Penny on May 28, 2002, at 13:02:02
In reply to suicidal ideation, posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 21:56:57
And I'm having too many of them too, Dinah.
Hang in there, dear.
Penny
Posted by NikkiT2 on May 29, 2002, at 15:34:08
In reply to suicidal ideation, posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 21:56:57
I have found Zyprexa a life saver with regard my sicidal ideation.. at one point it was all I htought about.. the ideas still flicker through my head but no where near as bad as I was...
I hope you find some help
Nikki
Posted by Fi on May 30, 2002, at 8:16:45
In reply to suicidal ideation, posted by dinah 2 on May 25, 2002, at 21:56:57
I cant imagine your therapist will care how you pronounce it, or judge you in some way. However, I respect that this is something which has turned into a big issue for you.
However, if it helps, I would pronounce it as
eye-dee-ation (without the gaps, of course!)Tho I am in the UK and it may be different elsewhere...
Also, I would imagine 'ideate' comes from the same 'root' so the guidance you found for that should apply to both words.
Fi
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