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Re: critique of the bell curve » Dinah

Posted by special_k on March 28, 2006, at 21:02:27

In reply to Re: critique of the bell curve » Dinah » special_k, posted by Dinah on March 28, 2006, at 20:03:39

> Do you have studies showing the lack of correlation between IQ scores and actual intelligence?

What is 'actual intelligence'?

And how much does IQ score at one instant in time predict IQ score at another instant in time as well as it does - from self-fulfilling prophecy?

I think 'actual intelligence' is a very complex multi-fauceted concept...

What do all games have in common?
(There are board games, one person games, ball games, computer games, olympic games etc)

What do all intelligent acts have in common?
(There is the same problem. It is a complex concept and I don't think there is a good measure... Then there is the nature / nurture side of it and if nurture comes into it a great deal then unless you score very highly you will probably be harmed more than helped by being given a score...)

> "do they have atheletic ability tests?
> do they have musical ability tests?
> do they have artistic ability tests?
> do they have social skills tests?"

> Sure they do. :) They're just not administered by psychologists.

Ah. Heh heh. Shows you where priorities lie I guess. Yeah... I think in general US is more fond of standardised tests etc etc than I am used to...

> Ok, my revised understanding of what you're saying is that there may be differences in native intelligence, but that intelligence testing does not adequately measure them. Would that be a correct understanding?

First you need to decide what intelligence is...

I don't think we have done that adequately. I'm not sure it can be done (what do all games have in common?)

Then you need to consider whether the above mentioned thing (that probably doesn't even exist) is mostly nature / nurture. Though that distinction merges anyway under sustained analysis...

I think that current misconceptions (within professionals and the general public) mean that things such as IQ tests do more harm than good for people.


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